Understanding Algebraic Unknowns in Physics Problems

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The discussion focuses on deriving the relationship v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1 from the equations r1/v1 = r2/v2 and m1r1 = m2r2. Participants clarify that the first equation can be rearranged to show v1/v2 = r1/r2 by canceling terms appropriately. They also confirm that if m1r1 = m2r2 is correctly stated, dividing both sides leads to the same relationship. The final conclusion is that all three ratios are equivalent, providing a clear understanding of the algebraic manipulation involved. The participants express gratitude for the clarification and confirm their understanding.
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Homework Statement



The unknowns below read as "m sub 1", "rub sub 2" etc.
The maths part of a physics problem states:

r1/v1 = r2/v2

Combining these with equation :

m1r1 = m2r2

gives:

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



Would anyone be able to explain to me how they have gone to the final line of

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1

Thank you!
 
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You can re-write
r1/v1 = r2/v2 as v1/v2=r1/r2
and
m1r1=m2r2 (I think you mean this) as r1/r2=m2/m1.
 
ZedCar said:

Homework Statement



The unknowns below read as "m sub 1", "rub sub 2" etc.
The maths part of a physics problem states:

r1/v1 = r2/v2
This is the same as saying that v1/v2= r1/r2 as you have below.

Combining these with equation :

m1r1/m2r2[/quote]
This is not an equation and does not say anything. What did you mean to say?

gives:

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1
If you meant to say "m1r1= m2r2" above, yes, that is correct.



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Would anyone be able to explain to me how they have gone to the final line of

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1[/quote]
You had, initially, r1/v1 = r2/v2. Multiply both sides by v1/r2 to get (r1/v1)(v1/r2)= (r2/v2)(v1/r2). On the left, the "v1" terms cancel leaving r1/r2. On the right the "r2" terms cancel leaving v1/v2. That is, r1/r2= v1/v2.

If you also have m1r1= m2r2, then dividing both sides by m1r2 gives (m1r1)/(m1r2)= (m2r2)/m1r2). The "m1" terms cancel on the left and the "r2" terms cancel on the right leaving r1/r2= m2/m1. Thus r1/r2= v1/v2= m2/m1.

Thank you!
 
ZedCar said:

Homework Statement



The unknowns below read as "m sub 1", "rub sub 2" etc.
The maths part of a physics problem states:

r1/v1 = r2/v2

Combining these with equation :

m1r1/m2r2
This is not an equation. Did you mean "m1r1= m2r2"?

gives:

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Would anyone be able to explain to me how they have gone to the final line of

v1/v2 = r1/r2 = m2/m1

Thank you!
You have initially, r1/v1 = r2/v2. Multiply both v1/r2. On the left the "v1" terms cancel and you get (r1/v1)(v1/r2)= r1/r2 and on the right the "r2" terms cancel and you get (r2/v2)(v1/r2)= v1/v2 so v1/v2= r1/r2.

If you actually meant m1r1= m2r2, then divide on both sides by m1r2. On the left, (m1r1)/(m1r2), the "m1" terms cancel and you get r1/r2. On the right, (m2r2)/(m1r2), the "r2" term cancel and you get m2/m1: v1/v2= r1/r2= m2/m1.
 
HallsofIvy said:
This is not an equation. Did you mean "m1r1= m2r2"?

Yes.

Apologies for that. I have now corrected the initial question.
 
I understand it now. Thank you.

Sorry for the confusion earlier!
 
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