Understanding EM Spectrum: Emitting vs. Reflecting | IR Camera Examples

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around distinguishing between objects emitting and reflecting specific wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum, particularly in the context of infrared (IR) radiation and camera observations. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of emission and reflection, using examples involving water and polished steel.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experiment with an IR source and water, noting that water emits IR radiation at 7 microns after absorbing it, while another participant discusses polished steel reflecting the IR source.
  • Another participant introduces the concepts of "specular reflection" and "diffuse reflection," suggesting these terms are relevant to understanding the differences in reflection types.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how a camera differentiates between emission and reflection, questioning whether the signals from a hot piece of steel and a reflective piece would appear similar to the camera.
  • One participant clarifies that reflected radiation from a specular surface will show an image of the original source, while emitted radiation will depict the emitting surface itself, noting potential differences in wavelengths due to temperature variations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how a camera differentiates between emitted and reflected signals, with some expressing uncertainty and others providing differing perspectives on the nature of the signals captured.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific terms and concepts related to reflection and emission, but there are unresolved questions regarding the interpretation of camera signals and the influence of surface temperature on observed radiation.

AkshayPitt
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Hello,

I was wondering how one would be able to tell the difference between an object emitting a certain wavelength of the EM spectrum, vs. an object reflecting that same wavelength of the EM spectrum. For example:

1) Suppose I have an IR source at 7 microns. I point this source at water, and capture data via a mid IR camera. Water has great absorption at 7 microns, so I don't see a direct reflection of the source captured by the camera. However, I do see that the water is emitting IR at 7 microns after having absorbed most of this radiation from this source.

2) I point the same source at a sheet of polished steel. I capture the data via a mid IR camera again. Polished steel has very high reflectivity, so I see almost a direct reflection of the source captured by the camera.

Would the signal captured by the mid IR camera look different in the two cases above?

Thanks.
 
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AkshayPitt said:
polished steel. I
"Specular reflection." You'll also want to look up "diffuse reflection" and "cosine scattering."
 
Thanks a lot for your response. After looking up those terms, I understand that specular reflection happens on smooth surfaces, and diffuse reflection happens on rough surfaces. What I am still confused about, however, is the difference (from the perspective of a camera) between emission and reflection. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but to me it seems like the camera would see emission and reflection the same way.

Rather than taking the example of water and polished steel, let's say there are two pieces of polished steel. Assume one piece of steel was already hot before coming into the camera's vision - the camera would pick up the emission of infrared from this piece of steel. Imagine that the second piece of steel has infrared reflecting off of it - the camera would pick up the reflection of infrared off of this piece of steel. Would these two camera signals not look very similar?
 
In the case of a specular surface, reflected radiation will give you an image of the original source. and the radiation emitted by the reflecting surface can give you only an image of the emitting surface itself. There will be additional differences in wavelengths of maximum intensities if there are temperature differences between the surface and the source being reflected.
 

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