Understanding Event Spaces and Probability Domains: Solving Problems A, B, and C

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The discussion revolves around understanding event spaces and probability domains, specifically addressing three questions related to the existence of event spaces with a certain number of sets and properties of unions within those spaces.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants explore the nature of event spaces by considering discrete sets and their subsets, questioning the definitions and properties of probability domains. Some participants suggest examining the implications of sigma-algebras in relation to the posed questions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into definitions and properties relevant to the questions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of sigma-algebras, but there is still confusion regarding the definitions and their application to the problems.

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There is mention of specific definitions provided by an instructor that may not be fully understood by all participants, leading to uncertainty in addressing the questions effectively.

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Homework Statement




I have some problems that I don't know the answer to.

A) Does there exist an event space, i.e., probability domain that has exactly one set?

B) Is there an event space, i.e. probability domain that has exactly three sets? Is there one that has exactly four sets?

C)If D is an event space, i.e., probability domain and each A and B is in D, then A U B is in D.


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I think A is yes, B is no, and C I have no clue. The most important is the WHY. Can someone explain to me why it's yes and no? I'm not sure how to explain it.
 
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I think it would be a good start to consider some discrete sets & the potential subsets of events

- first the single element set {1}, what are the potential subsets?
- now the double element set {1,2}, what are the potential subsets?

if you equate each subset with an event, this may help answer a) & b)

for c) consider any element in A U B, it must be in either A or B... (note the As and Bs here correspond to sets & not questions, hence the use of the lower case)
 
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by the way, I'm guessing a little as the questions not exactly clear what the definitions are
 
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lanedance said:
I think it would be a good start to consider some discrete sets & the potential subsets of events

- first the single element set {1}, what are the potential subsets?
You might also want to consider the subsets of the empty set, with no elements.

- now the double element set {1,2}, what are the potential subsets?

if you equate each subset with an event, this may help answer a) & b)

for c) consider any element in A U B, it must be in either A or B... (note the As and Bs here correspond to sets & not questions, hence the use of the lower case)
 
Thanks. Got a bunch of definitions he gave us. I didn't think the definitions would matter. It's still the same math after all. The defenition for probability domain is:

The statement that D is a probability domain means that D is a collection of sets such that each of the following statements are true:

1.There is a set I in D such that if A is in D, then A is a subset of I;

2. There is a set O in D such that if A is in D, then O is a subset of A;

3. If A is in D and B is in D, then A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]B is in D;

4. If A is in D, then there is a set Ac in D such that A[tex]\bigcap[/tex]Bc=0 and A[tex]\bigcup[/tex]Ac = I;

This is VERY confusing to me. I can't answer the questions using this definition. Can't figure it out.
 
1 & 2.

You say "event space" therefore I assume you are referring to the sigma-algebra of the sample space of your Probability Space. If you look up the definition of a sigma-algebra the answer to 1. and 2. becomes quite obvious. Hint: Power sets.

3.

Once again, the definition of a sigma-algebra will make this obvious. Sigma-algebras are imployed when considering Probability Spaces because of their neat ability to be measurable. We like our subsets (events) of probability spaces to be measurable because then we have a well-defined notion of size. This is why a Probability Space is a triple (Probability Measure, Sigma-Algebra, Sample Space) and not just the Sample Space.

Now that you know why probability spaces have associated sigma-algebras, just look up the definition of it - it will have three properties - one of them help you solve 3.
 

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