Understanding How a 3-Phase Generator Works

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the functioning of a three-phase generator, exploring the principles of operation, the relationship between AC and DC connections, and the mechanics behind rotor rotation. Participants inquire about the voltage output and the energy sources that drive the generator, delving into both theoretical and practical aspects of generator operation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion regarding how the rotor of a three-phase generator rotates in one direction despite the alternating nature of AC current supplied to the stator.
  • Questions are raised about the amount of AC current required for the stator and the implications of changing AC direction on rotor movement.
  • One participant clarifies that a generator does not require electricity to be supplied to the stator for rotor rotation, contrasting it with a motor's operation.
  • Another participant explains that generators convert mechanical energy into electrical energy and describes the role of the rotor's magnetic field in producing voltage at the stator terminals.
  • There is a mention that in a Y-connected generator, the phase-to-phase voltage is √3 times that of a single phase.
  • Participants discuss various energy sources that can drive the rotor, including hydroelectric, steam, geothermal, nuclear, and solar energy, emphasizing the need for a mechanical energy source to initiate rotation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of generator operation, but there remains some confusion and differing interpretations regarding the specifics of rotor rotation and the role of electrical connections. The discussion does not reach a consensus on all points raised.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between AC and DC connections, as well as the mechanics of rotor movement, remain unresolved. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and interpretation of generator principles.

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Hi,

I was having some confusion understanding how the three phase generator works.

As far as I know AC is connected to the stator and DC is connected to the rotor and the changing magnetic field in the stator causes the rotor to rotate.

I was wondering what causes the rotor to rotate in one direction and how much AC current have to be supplied to the stator. I mean as the direction of AC is changing, the direction the rotor is rotating should also change, right

And, what is the total voltage of the three phase supply if a single phase is 240V.
 
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daredevil said:
Hi,

I was having some confusion understanding how the three phase generator works.

As far as I know AC is connected to the stator and DC is connected to the rotor and the changing magnetic field in the stator causes the rotor to rotate.

I was wondering what causes the rotor to rotate in one direction and how much AC current have to be supplied to the stator. I mean as the direction of AC is changing, the direction the rotor is rotating should also change, right

And, what is the total voltage of the three phase supply if a single phase is 240V.

Please see synchronous machine principles from:

http://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&r...9q7BiZFkA&sig2=LCIQGsbcJsqDKQm2o2qUWA&cad=rja
 
Yeah, you could do some reading as recommended.

Other than that, I should say that in a generator, you do NOT connect electricity to the stator to make the rotor rotate...that's a motor!

A generator generates electricity and makes it come out of the stator terminals...a generator is kind of a transducer that converts mechanical energy into electrical energy. In a generator, the rotor rotates and as it is excited and has it own magnetic field, these two things ( mag field and motion) produce a voltage on the stator.

In a Y-connected generator, the phase to phase voltage is sqrt(3) that of a single phase.
 
Thanks..

So what causes the rotor to rotate in the generator if no current is connected to the stator
 
Well, generators are typically installed at a power plant where there is a source of energy that can be used to rotate the rotor of the generator.

For example, where there is a big river with a lot of water, people build dams and a hydroelectric plant, where the water comes down and moves the blades of a turbine, which in turn moves the rotor of the generator.

Or, in a steam plant...a train comes around with a lot of coal, they burn the coal inside a boiler with a lot of water pipes...as the water heats up, they keep it pressurized and then they shot it into the blades of a steam turbine's blades, again, the turbine turns and as it is connected to the same shaft of the generator rotor, well, it turns it too.

etc., etc., etc.. geothermal plants, nuclear plants, some solar plants...they all first need to use some source of energy to move a turbine, then they connect a generator to the same shaft.

So, a turbine is a device that converts some kind of source energy into a rotational mechanical energy, a generator is a device that converts mechanical rotational energy into electricity and a motor is a device that converts electrical energy into mechanical rotational energy.
 

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