Understanding Linear Algebra Basics: Finding a Basis for a Subspace in F^3

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The discussion centers on understanding the concept of a basis for a subspace in F^3, specifically for the subspace W defined by the equation 2a1 - a2 - a3 = 0. A basis for W is identified as the set {(1/2, 1, 0), (1/2, 0, 1)}, which spans the plane through the origin in R^3. Participants clarify that any two vectors in this plane can serve as a basis, emphasizing that a plane must pass through the origin to qualify as a vector space. Questions arise about the general equation of a plane and the nature of the field F, with comparisons made to R. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding these foundational concepts in linear algebra.
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Hello... I am doing this problem with basis. Infact, I am having a lot of problems understanding basis, i did every question in the textbook and I still get seem to understand the idea of it.

So i was hoping somebody can help me with the whole idea about it.

Say, for example, how would i go abouts a question like this:

--Let F be a field and let V = F^3. Let
W = {(a1 a2 a3) E F^3 / 2a1 - a2 - a3 = 0 }

Find a basis for W --

If a question like that came on a test, id fail it - sad to say. It would also be good if somebody knows a good website or has sameple tests that covers this mataril so that i may get used to it.

Thanks
 
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so any element in W can be represented like so:

w = (a1, a2, a3), where a1, a2, and a3 are arbitrary.

but W has the additional restriction that a1 = 1/2 (a2 + a3).

so

w= ( 1/2 (a2+a3), a2, a3).

w = a2 ( 1/2, 1, 0) + a3 (1/2, 0, 1). (it's easy to see that this is the same as above.)

so

w = span{(1/2, 1, 0), (1/2, 0, 1)}.


and that set {(1/2, 1, 0), (1/2, 0, 1)} is our basis.


ah, i miss these problems!
 
Keep in mind that the above is not the only basis.

Also, notice that the given vector space is nothing but a (generalization of a) plane through the origin in \mathbb{R}^3. Any pair of vectors in the plane will serve as a basis.
 
Hey.. i was just wondering about Brad Barkers post above...

he said that a1 = 1/2 (a2 + a3).

well.. shouldn't it be a1 = 1/2 (a2 - a3) ?

Does it make a difference?
 
No, you said "2a1 - a2 -a3 = 0"

That gives 2a1 = a2 + a3
 
oh that was my silly mistake.. but either way.. i still learned something :)
 
Hey... what about the subspace...

U = (a+b+c=0/ a b c is in the Real Numbers)

How would you show the span of that.

Also, the comment Gokul43201 made, about the basis being the plane through the origin, how did he know that? I mean its a plane because of the two vectors, but how did he know that its through the origin?
 
rad0786 said:
Also, the comment Gokul43201 made, about the basis being the plane through the origin, how did he know that? I mean its a plane because of the two vectors, but how did he know that its through the origin?

The general equation of a plane is Ax+By+Cz = D.
D = 0 \Longleftrightarrow the plane goes through the origin.
 
"and that set {(1/2, 1, 0), (1/2, 0, 1)} is our basis." Can that be a Basis for F^3? what is F (Feild)? isn't that the same as R, like R^3
 
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iNCREDiBLE said:
The general equation of a plane is Ax+By+Cz = D.
D = 0 \Longleftrightarrow the plane goes through the origin.
Also, for a plane to constitute a vector space with the usual vector addition, it must pass through the origin, since this point is the additive identity element.
 

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