Understanding Motional EMF: Why Can We Use the Formula for a Spinning Bar?

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The discussion focuses on the application of the motional EMF formula, \(\mathcal{E} = -Blv\), to a spinning bar in a magnetic field. Participants clarify that this formula is valid because it calculates the induced EMF based on the change in magnetic flux due to the bar's motion, regardless of whether it is part of a closed circuit. The induced EMF can indeed power a light bulb if the bar is connected correctly, as the EMF is proportional to the time derivative of the flux through the loop formed by the connections. Additionally, the angle between the magnetic field and the velocity of the bar affects the induced EMF, confirming that \(-Blv\sin\theta\) is a more precise representation when considering angles. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the relationship between motion, magnetic fields, and induced EMF in various configurations.
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I was reading this: http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/materials/StudyGuide/guide10.pdf
(specifically page 10-6), and came across the formula;
## \mathcal{E} = -Blv##
which is used for motional emf.

Next, I was trying to solve a problem on page 10-33 (bottom problem)
with a spinning bar. They broke up the bar into segments (dr) and used that formula and integrated to find the induced emf.

I don't get why you can use that formula though in this problem's case, because isn't it only for a bar moving across a circuit?

I guess I'm lacking in the theory; can someone explain why we can use it?
 
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It is for a bar moving in a magnetic field. No need for a circuit to have an emf.
 
Emf is the rate of change of flux with respect to time. When you have a bar (or a circuit) in your hand, and you give it a velocity v directed into a magnetic field what you have is

##\frac{\Delta \phi}{\Delta t} = \frac{\Delta (B\cdot A)}{\Delta t}## and if B is constant, then the only Chang in flux is due to the change in area, and the change in area is due to the velocity granting the equation you have.

B is constant and delta a is l times delta width/delta t and delta width is the velocity
 
So does #\mathca{E} = -Blv# give the emf produced by the rod moving?
 
By the rod moving in a magnetic field when the velocity is perpendicular to the field.
To be more precise.
 
Two things:

1] Physically, does this mean that if we attach wires to the ends of the bar and to a light bulb while it is moving, the light bulb will turn on?
2] Is the correct version ##-Blv\sin\theta## where ##\theta## is the angle between the field and velocity?
 
1. It depends on the geometry of the connectors. The emf is only well-defined on closed loops, and it is proportional to the time derivative of the flux through the loop. So how you connect the wires will affect how the flux changes.

2. Again it depends on the geometry, but your basic trig will give you the net flux if the surface normal vector enclosed by the wire loop is not parallel the magnetic field. So in short, yes.
 
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