Understanding Quadratic Equations: Solving for x

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality $$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}<1$$. Participants explore various methods and steps to simplify the inequality and find the values of x that satisfy it. The conversation includes both algebraic manipulation and considerations of cases based on the sign of the denominator.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting by simplifying the inequality to $$2x-1
  • Others propose considering cases for the denominator, noting that if $$x+3>0$$, then $$x>-3$$, leading to the conclusion that $$x<4$$.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of distinguishing cases when multiplying by the denominator, stating that if $$b>0$$, then the inequality remains the same, but if $$b<0$$, the direction of the inequality changes.
  • Another approach involves rewriting the inequality as $$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}-1<0$$ and combining terms to analyze the critical points at $$x=-3$$ and $$x=4$$.
  • One participant tests the sign of the expression in different intervals to determine where the inequality holds true, concluding that the solution is $$(-3,4)$$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods and interpretations of the inequality, leading to a lack of consensus on the best approach. Different views on handling the inequality and the implications of the denominator's sign create a contested discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions regarding the sign of the denominator and the conditions under which they manipulate the inequality. The discussion reflects different mathematical strategies without resolving the potential for conflicting interpretations.

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Can someone please help me understand this.
maybe a solution with explanation ..

$$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}<1$$

Maby the NeXT step..??

$$ 2x-1<x+3$$

Can we use this in the $$x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}$$
 
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headbang said:
Can someone please help me understand this.
maybe a solution with explanation ..

$$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}<1$$

Maby the NeXT step..??
Can we use this in the $$x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}$$

Hi!

You have to take cases for the denominator.

  • $x+3>0 \Rightarrow x>-3$

    Then:

    $$2x-1<x+3 \Rightarrow x<4$$
  • $x+3<0 \Rightarrow x<-3$

    $$2x-1>x+3 \Rightarrow x>4, \text{ that is not possible, since , in this case, } x<-3$$

So, the only solution is $-3<x<4$.
 
Or maybe:

$$2x-x<3+1$$

$$x<4$$
 
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headbang said:
Or maybe:

$$2x-x<3+1$$

$$x<4$$

This stands only if $x+3>0$.

When we have:

$$\frac{a}{b}<1 $$

and we multiply by $b$, we have to distinguish cases.

If $b>0$:
$$\frac{a}{b} \cdot b<1 \cdot b \Rightarrow a<b$$

If $b<0$:

$$\frac{a}{b}<1 \Rightarrow a>b$$

For example:

$$\frac{5}{-3}<1 \Rightarrow \frac{5}{-3} \cdot (-3)> 1 \cdot (-3) \Rightarrow 5>-3$$

Multiplying both sides of an inequality by a negative number, the direction of the inequality changes ("<" becomes ">").
 
headbang said:
Can someone please help me understand this.
maybe a solution with explanation ..

$$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}<1$$

Maby the NeXT step..??

$$ 2x-1<x+3$$

Can we use this in the $$x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}$$

As mentioned, you don't want to multiply through by a quantity containing the variable, because it may be negative , positive or zero. I would subtract 1 from bot sides to get:

$$\frac{2x-1}{x+3}-1<0$$

Combine terms on the left:

$$\frac{2x-1-(x+3)}{x+3}<0$$

$$\frac{2x-1-x-3}{x+3}<0$$

$$\frac{x-4}{x+3}<0$$

Okay, we now know that the sign of the expression on the left will change at two critical values:

$$x=-3,\,4$$

Because the roots in the numerator and denominator occur an odd number of times (in this case both once), we know the sign of the expression will alternate across the 3 intervals of the real number line into these two critical values divide it. So, I would test a number in the middle interval, specifically $x=0$, and we see that the expression is negative, and satisfies the inequality. Thus, in the left and right intervals, the expression will be positive, and not part of the solution. Since the inequality is strict, the interval is open, thus the solution, in interval notation is:

$$(-3,4)$$
 

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