Understanding Sound Wave Amplitude in the Equation s=Sm cos(kx-wt)

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of sound wave amplitude as represented in the equation s=Sm cos(kx-wt). Participants explore the meaning of Sm, the nature of sound waves, and the differences between sound waves and other types of waves, particularly in terms of amplitude and propagation in various media.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of Sm in the context of sound waves, comparing it to the amplitude in transverse waves.
  • Another participant clarifies that Sm represents the maximum displacement of particles from their equilibrium position in sound waves, which move forward and backward.
  • There is a request for further illustration to clarify the concept of amplitude in sound waves.
  • One participant raises a question about the resonant frequency of a tube open at one end, seeking to understand the relationship between the tube's structure and the resonant frequency formula.
  • Participants discuss the nature of sound waves as pressure waves and how amplitude relates to local air pressure, indicating that higher amplitude corresponds to louder sounds.
  • Questions are posed regarding the propagation of longitudinal waves through different media and the limitations of transverse waves to solids.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding sound wave amplitude and its implications. There is no consensus on the clarity of the concept, as some participants seek further explanation while others provide differing perspectives on sound wave behavior and resonance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific definitions and concepts related to wave mechanics, but there are unresolved questions about the propagation of different wave types and the implications of resonance in sound waves.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the properties of sound waves, wave mechanics, and the differences between longitudinal and transverse waves in various media.

elabed haidar
Messages
133
Reaction score
1
i have a question about sound waves :
we know that the equation of sound wave can be written in the form s=Sm cos(kx-wt)
,but i still don't get the meaning of Sm .I know that in the transverse wave ingeneral , and in particular the string the maximum amplitude is how much the string can go vertically upward ,
so what about the maximum amplitude in sound wave?
PS the definition of sound wave amplitude is the maximum postion of the element at equilibrium ?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
hi elabed haidar! :smile:

as you know, s is displacement and sm is maximum displacement …

the displacement here is the distance any particular particle goes from its own equilibrium position …

in a transverse wave it goes up or down, and in a spring (or sound wave) it goes forward and backward :wink:
elabed haidar said:
PS the definition of sound wave amplitude is the maximum postion of the element at equilibrium ?

you mean the maximum postion of the element from its equilibrium position?

yes, the maximum distance forward or backward :smile:
 
i still don't get it can you please illustrate more please?
 
here is the problem i understand it in a spring Xm but in a sound wave i still don't get it
 
one more thing in sound wave resonance why when we have tube which is one open from only one side the resonant frequency f=nv/4 lamda ?? and thank you very much professor
 
for pictures, google "longitudinal wave" and click "Images" :smile:
 
why does longitudinal waves can propagate through solid, liquid and gas? and not transverse except in solid?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
elabed haidar said:
one more thing in sound wave resonance why when we have tube which is one open from only one side the resonant frequency f=nv/4 lamda ?? and thank you very much professor

Because the open end will have an antinode at it and you can't just have any wavelength because antinodes occur periodically
 
  • #10
chrisbaird said:
Sound waves are pressure waves, so the picture of a longitudinal wave going down a spring is not always helpful. The amplitude of the sound wave is the maximum local air pressure reached when the wave traverses through it. So a sound wave with a higher amplitude (a louder sound) will have higher pressure. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6bz5x_plane-breaks-sound-barrier-then-exp_tech"
but how does mechanical longitudinal wave travel in solid, liquid and gas medium? and transverse mechanical wave (such as in rope)travels only in solid medium?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #11

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K