Understanding the Importance of Limits in Calculus

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The discussion centers on the concept of limits in calculus, specifically questioning their necessity when expressions can be simplified directly. A user demonstrates that the limit of (3x^2-12)/(x-2) as x approaches 2 can be resolved by simplification, yielding the same result as the limit itself. However, another participant clarifies that while simplification works for some cases, limits are essential for handling expressions that are undefined at specific points, such as x=2 in this example. The conversation highlights that limits are crucial for more complex functions that cannot be simplified easily. Understanding limits is fundamental for calculus, especially for cases involving indeterminate forms.
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<br /> \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3x^2-12}{x-2} = \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3(x-2)(x+2)}{x-2} = \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3(x+2)}{1} = 3*(2+2) = 12<br />

This gives the exact same result as reducing the expression would do.

<br /> \frac{3x^2-12}{x-2} = 3(x+2)<br />

I can see nothing but benefits by doing this, I get the same values for all X, and at x = 2 I no longer have a division by zero, rather I get 12 (which is the limit of the original expression at x = 2 anyway).

So what do I need the limits for? All the examples my book has of limits can be solved by simply reducing the expression to a simpler form instead.

Is my book just bad?

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Try sin(x) / x as x --> 0.
 
kenewbie said:
<br /> \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3x^2-12}{x-2} = \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3(x-2)(x+2)}{x-2} = \lim_{x\to 2}\frac{3(x+2)}{1} = 3*(2+2) = 12<br />

This gives the exact same result as reducing the expression would do.

<br /> \frac{3x^2-12}{x-2} = 3(x+2)<br />
No it doesn't. (3x2 - 12)/(x - 2) is not defined for x = 2, while 3(x + 2) is defined for all real numbers. What you have done to simplify the expression on the left is to factor out (x - 2)/(x - 2), which is 1 as long as x != 2. If x = 2, this expression is undefined. The whole point of limits is to be able to determine the value of some expression for values of x near some specific number.
kenewbie said:
I can see nothing but benefits by doing this, I get the same values for all X, and at x = 2 I no longer have a division by zero, rather I get 12 (which is the limit of the original expression at x = 2 anyway).

So what do I need the limits for? All the examples my book has of limits can be solved by simply reducing the expression to a simpler form instead.

Is my book just bad?
Probably not, but I don't know what book you're using. What they are doing is starting with simple examples of limits, and will probably go to more involved examples (such as lim (sin x)/x as LCKurtz mentioned) that are not amenable to such simple tricks.
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