Understanding velocity and acceleration

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In the discussion on velocity and acceleration, the relationship between average speed and instantaneous speed is clarified, emphasizing that they cannot be represented by the same variable unless acceleration is zero. The equation v = s/t defines average speed, while acceleration is expressed as a = dv/dt, where v denotes instantaneous speed. The differentiation mentioned is only valid if distance (s) is constant and time (t) is variable. The derivation of velocity from acceleration assumes a constant acceleration, leading to the equation v = u + at. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for accurate motion analysis.
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speed = distance/time
v=s/t
Acceleration = dv/dt = -s/t^2 ?
 
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In the equation v = s/t, 'v' represents average speed over the period from time 0 to time t.

In the equation accel = dv/dt, 'v' represents instantaneous speed at time t.

Unless acceleration is always zero, average speed and instantaneous speed are different items, and cannot be represented by the same variable letter ('v' in this case).
 
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Another thing to add is that the differentiation in post #1 would be valid only if ##s## were a constant and ##t## were a variable. Does that make sense?
 
DrGreg said:
Another thing to add is that the differentiation in post #1 would be valid only if ##s## were a constant and ##t## were a variable. Does that make sense?

No because when deriving an equation for v we start with a = dv/dt -> dv = a dt -> v=[int]a dt -> v = u + at. This is how Wikipedia derives the first equation of motion. They treat a as a constant. Thanks for your first answer though
 
coverband said:
No because when deriving an equation for v we start with a = dv/dt -> dv = a dt -> v=[int]a dt -> v = u + at. This is how Wikipedia derives the first equation of motion. They treat a as a constant. Thanks for your first answer though
I said constant ##s##, not constant ##a##. My comments refer specifically to $$
\frac{d}{dt} \left( \frac{s}{t} \right) = -\frac{s}{t^2},
$$which is valid only if ##s## is constant.
 
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