Understanding Voltage Drops and KVL in Circuit Analysis

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of voltage drops and Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) in circuit analysis. Participants explore the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance, as well as the implications of sign conventions in circuit equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the equations V = RI and V = -RI represent different perspectives on voltage drops across a resistor, questioning the validity of these representations.
  • Another participant asserts that a resistor does not generate power, emphasizing that the voltage source is responsible for power generation and that internal resistance consumes some of that power.
  • A participant questions the correctness of an example that treated a voltage drop as -RI, noting that this resulted in a negative value and suggesting that the polarity of the resistance may have been reversed.
  • One participant proposes that the example aims to illustrate that even if the initial choice of voltage drops is incorrect when applying KVL, the final results can still be correct, as indicated by a negative value reflecting the actual direction of the voltage drop.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of voltage drops and the role of resistors in power generation. There is no consensus on the correctness of the example discussed, and multiple competing interpretations remain.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of voltage and current may not be explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical implications of the negative voltage drop.

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p here stands to power (v in power equation is magnitude), in addition to this : is it also true that in the first one : V = RI (V upper - V lower) and in the second one : V = - RI (V lower - V upper) ?
(current is magnitude in all previous equations)
 

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mohamed el teir said:
second one : V = - RI (V lower - V upper) ?

It's not clear what your question is, but on the quoted part, no. A resistor does not generate power. You can have a voltage source with an internal resistance value, but the voltage source is what is generating the power, and the internal resistance of the power source consumes some of that power as the load current flows through it.
 
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so is this example wrong ? it treated v2 as -RI and v2 appeared to be negative at the end, which stated that resistance + and - ends are reversed i think
 
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so is this example wrong ? it treated v2 as -RI and v2 appeared to be negative at the end, which stated that resistance + and - ends are reversed i think

I think they are just trying to illustrate how if you choose the voltage drops incorrectly initially when using KVL, you still get the right answers in the end (because you get a negative number which means the voltage drop is actually in the other direction).
 

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