Understanding Voltage Reference Points and Potential Differences | Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of voltage reference points and potential differences, exploring how voltage is defined in relation to different reference points. Participants examine the implications of referencing voltages to various levels and the resulting potential differences.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that 5 volts in reference to ground (0 volts) is 5 volts, questioning if 5 volts in reference to 2 volts would be 7 volts due to the potential difference.
  • Another participant challenges the phrasing of "5 volts in reference to 2 volts," explaining that connecting the negative side of a 5 volt power supply to a cable at +2V results in the positive side being at +7V.
  • A third participant reiterates the initial claim about voltage referencing, suggesting that if the same ground reference is used, 5 volts is actually 3 volts above 2 volts, comparing it to a metaphor about apples.
  • A participant provides a formula for voltage difference, illustrating various examples of voltage values and their differences.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of potential difference, emphasizing the exclusion of ground state in the definition and the inherent nature of voltage to perform work based on potential differences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to interpret voltage references and potential differences, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the definitions and implications discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific assumptions about circuit configurations and reference points, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes various interpretations of voltage that depend on the context of the circuit being analyzed.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, physics, or anyone seeking to understand the nuances of voltage references and potential differences in circuits.

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Hello

I know that 5 volts in reference to ground (0 volts) is 5 volts as there is a potential differencce of 5 volts between 0 and 5 volts.

Does this mean 5 volts in reference to 2 volts would be 7 volts as there is a potential difference of 5 volts between 2 and 7 volts?

Thank you for any replies
 
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What are "5 volts in reference to 2 volts"?
If you connect the "-"-side of a 5 volt power supply to a cable which has +2V (with your definition), the "+"-side will have +7V.
 
e44-72 said:
Hello

I know that 5 volts in reference to ground (0 volts) is 5 volts as there is a potential differencce of 5 volts between 0 and 5 volts.

Does this mean 5 volts in reference to 2 volts would be 7 volts as there is a potential difference of 5 volts between 2 and 7 volts?

Thank you for any replies

If you are talking apples to apples (same ground reference in the same circuit) then 5 volts is 3 volts above 2 volts.

Your argument is exactly like saying that if I have 5 apples and you take away 2 of them, I should now have 7 because there is a difference of 5 between 2 and 7.
 
Voltage difference = Voltage on point A - Voltage on point B

Examples

Va Vb Difference
5 0 5
5 2 3
5 -2 7
-5 -3 -2
 
potential diff is exactly that, -5 to -10

potential being the power-of-the-universe/desire to go from one difference (ie ground state) to another

difference.. being the "key word" in "potential difference" : excludes the ground/zero state

(as the ability of voltage/potential difference to perform is the same)
 

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