Understanding Widal Test Kit Dilutions

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The discussion revolves around the Widal test kit dilutions, specifically focusing on the interpretation of dilution factors and the calculations involved in determining concentrations in test tubes. Participants explore the meaning of various numbers associated with dilutions and clarify how to calculate dilution factors.

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  • One participant notes the concentrations in the test tubes as 1/20, 1/40, 1/80, etc., and questions the meaning of the numbers 10-1, 10-2, etc.
  • Another participant suggests that the notation might represent ##2^{-n}## for different n, indicating a possible confusion with a different dilution method.
  • A participant proposes that the numbers should reflect steps of 0.5 rather than 0.1, providing calculations for each dilution based on this assumption.
  • There is a query regarding which number should be referred to as the dilution factor.
  • A participant defines the dilution factor as the final volume divided by the aliquot volume, providing specific values for each tube.
  • One participant mentions receiving a response from HiMedia Labs indicating a typographical error in their documentation regarding the dilution numbers.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the dilution numbers and the correct method for calculating dilution factors. There is no consensus on the meaning of the numbers at the top of the test tubes or the appropriate dilution steps.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of dilution factors and the implications of the typographical error mentioned by HiMedia Labs. The discussion reflects a reliance on specific calculations and assumptions that may not be universally accepted.

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This snip off is from Himedia Widal test teaching kit.

I understand 1/20 1/40 1/80... are the concentrations in each test tube. They are obtained by the following calculation: (2nd testube) 1/2 X 1/20.
But I can't decipher the numbers written at the top, 10-1 , 10-2 etc.

Besides which of of these two set of numbers should be called dilution factor.
 

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That should be ##2^{-n}## for different n. Maybe it was copied from a different problem where the dilution was a factor 10 each step.
 
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Welcome to PF.
I think they have used old numbers from steps of 0.1 when they should now use steps of 0.5
Following the dilution, the concentration in the tubes will be;
#1, 1:20 = 0.05 = 0.1 × 2-1
#2, 1:40 = 0.025 = 0.1 × 2-2
#3, 1:80 = 0.0125 = 0.1 × 2-3
#4, 1:160 = 0.00625 = 0.1 × 2-4
#5, 1:320 = 0.003125 = 0.1 × 2-5
#6, 1:640 = 0.0015625 = 0.1 × 2-6
#7, 1:1280 = 0.00078125 = 0.1 × 2-7
In each case the 0.1 = 10-1 = initial dilution of 10.
 
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Which number here could be called dilution factor?
 
Thanks
 
The dilution factor is equal to the final volume divided by the aliquot volume.
For tube #1; 1:20; The dilution factor is 2.0 mL / 0.1 mL = 20.
The dilution factors for tubes #1 to #7 are 20, 40, 80, 160, 320, 640 and 1280.
 
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Baluncore said:
The dilution factor is equal to the final volume divided by the aliquot volume.
Thanks
 
I've had a reply from HiMedia Labs,
... Kindly note that, there was a typographical error in our TD (diagram for dilutions in Page No 5 of HTI018) which has been uploaded in our website. ...
The new sheet on the website has removed the offending numbers.
 
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Merlin3189 said:
I've had a reply from HiMedia Labs,

The new sheet on the website has removed the offending numbers.
Oh thank you.
 

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