Uni for undergrad physics - does it matter which?

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The discussion contrasts two undergraduate physics programs, highlighting their focus areas and course structures. The first program is industry-oriented, featuring a mix of physics and mathematics courses but raises concerns about the depth of mathematical training, particularly the absence of linear algebra and differential equations. It offers convenience and a higher likelihood of securing a job in science upon graduation. The second program emphasizes research, includes a solid mathematics foundation, and incorporates a lab component, though it requires an additional unrelated subject, which some view as unnecessary. The potential for pursuing a Master's or PhD is noted, with a preference for the second program due to its comprehensive curriculum. The importance of mathematics in physics education is underscored, with varying approaches among universities regarding the integration of math courses within physics programs.
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The first one seems more industry focused whilst the second focuses on research. Here are the course outlines:

1
Sem 1 - Physics
Sem 2 - Calculus 1, Mechanics, Electromagnetism and Thermodynamics
Sem 3 - Calculus 2, Materials and Thermal Physics, Optics and Radiation Physics
Sem 4 - Mathematics for Physicists, Electromagnetics and Quantum Physics
Sem 5 - Quantum and Statistical Physics, Applied Physics
Sem 6 - Photonics and Nuclear Physics, Solid State Physics

Pros: Convenient (transport + already been there for a couple of years), more likely to have a job in science when I graduate
Cons: I'm not sure if you can minor in math because it's a different dept, the course seems pretty half-***ed

2
Sem 1 - Physics 1, Calculus 2*
Sem 2 - Physics 2, Linear Algebra
Sem 3 - Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity, Thermal and Classical Physics, Vector Calculus
Sem 4 - Electromagnetism and Optics, Real Analysis with Applications
Sem 5 - Quantum Physics, Electrodynamics, Complex Analysis
Sem 6 - Statistical Physics, Physics Lab A

* or Calculus 1 depending on your HSC score

Pros: research focused
Cons: Not as close to as I'd like, hey require you to take one extra subject which isn't related to your course, so nothing science-related (IMO, a waste of time)


Assuming I do well, I intend on pursuing a Master's after I graduate at the second Uni (or interstate) and later down the track, maybe a PhD as I'm interested in doing research

So basically, does it matter which of the two I go to for my undergraduate degree?
 
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Why are you "more likely to have a job in science when [you] graduate" for #1?
 
Out curiosity, which universities are these? Where are you from? I ask because you mentioned the HSC.
 
Physics without a linear algebra course seems iffy to me, industry-focused or otherwise. For that matter, so does physics without differential equations, though that may vary a little more. Granted, if you can do that minor in math that won't be a problem. 2 does appear more legit to me because it locks in that mathematics background in the program, although it'll likely be part of the prereqs for #1 anyway. On that grounds, and on the grounds that #2 includes a lab aspect, I would prefer #2, but you'll have to clear that part about the maths up.
 
a7d07c8114 said:
Physics without a linear algebra course seems iffy to me, industry-focused or otherwise. For that matter, so does physics without differential equations, though that may vary a little more.

(Canadian, so take what I say with a grain of salt)

Some universities teach the mathematics required for physics in the physics courses, while others require (or encourage) you to take the specific mathematics courses.

For example, my (relatively) small university doesn't even offer a specific course in partial differential equations, but there's mathematical physics courses that cover them extensively.
 
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