Uniform Circular Motion Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the smallest radius of curvature for the TGV train while maintaining a passenger acceleration limit of 0.050g. Participants emphasize the importance of consistent units in calculations, particularly when incorporating gravitational acceleration (g = 9.81 m/s²). Confusion arises regarding how to apply g in the formulas, with clarification provided that multiplying 0.05 by 9.81 yields the correct acceleration value. After addressing unit conversions and calculations, one participant successfully arrives at the correct answer. Overall, the thread highlights the critical role of unit consistency and understanding gravitational acceleration in solving uniform circular motion problems.
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1. The fast French train known as the TGV (Train à Grande Vitesse) has a scheduled average speed of 216 km/h. (a) If the train goes around a curve at that speed and the magnitude of the acceleration experienced by the passengers is to be limited to 0.050g, what is the smallest radius of curvature for the track that can be tolerated? (in km) (b) At what speed must the train go around a curve with a 1.08 km radius to be at the acceleration limit? (in km/h)

2. a=v2/r and T=2pir/v

3. I have attempted both part a and part b but I have no success in getting the correct answer. Here are m attempts
a) a=0.05g
r=v2/a
r=2162/0.05= 933120


b) r=1.08km a=0.05g
v=sqrtar
v=sqrt0.05x1.08= 0.232
 
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MFlood7356 said:
1. The fast French train known as the TGV (Train à Grande Vitesse) has a scheduled average speed of 216 km/h. (a) If the train goes around a curve at that speed and the magnitude of the acceleration experienced by the passengers is to be limited to 0.050g, what is the smallest radius of curvature for the track that can be tolerated? (in km) (b) At what speed must the train go around a curve with a 1.08 km radius to be at the acceleration limit? (in km/h)

2. a=v2/r and T=2pir/v

3. I have attempted both part a and part b but I have no success in getting the correct answer. Here are m attempts
a) a=0.05g
r=v2/a
r=2162/0.05= 933120


b) r=1.08km a=0.05g
v=sqrtar
v=sqrt0.05x1.08= 0.232

Your approach is fine, but you need to remember to make sure your units are consistent. Look carefully at them. You can't mix km/h, m, and s like you've done. Also, don't forget that g has a value, you can't just drop it out of your calculation.
 
Well I really was confused about g. I couldn't find out a conversion factor for it anywhere. I don't know how to use it.
 
I would just leave g as 9.81 m/s2, and convert all the other quantities so they are in meters and seconds. Then do the calculations, then convert the final answer back into km/h.

But if you wanted to convert g to km/h2, you don't need to "find" a conversion factor. Just do it dimensionally using the same relations you would use to convert anything else (1 km = 1000 m, 1 hr = 3600 s, etc).
 
Oh okay but I'm still confused on g. Would I multiply 0.05X9.81 to get the correct acceleration?
 
MFlood7356 said:
Oh okay but I'm still confused on g. Would I multiply 0.05X9.81 to get the correct acceleration?

1 G = 9.81 m/s^2

so

0.05 G = ?


yes, u only need to multiply
 
OKay thank you I got the right answer
 

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