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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving an object released from rest at an altitude above Earth's surface. The speed of the object at a distance from Earth's center is derived using conservation of energy principles, resulting in the equation v=√(2GM_E(1/r - 1/(R_E + h))). For part b, participants discuss performing a numerical integration to find the time of fall from the release point to the Earth's surface, suggesting methods like Simpson's rule for computation. There is some confusion regarding the numerical methods, with participants clarifying that simpler techniques are sufficient for this problem. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding both the physics and the computational techniques involved.
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An object is released from rest at an altitude h above the surface of the Earth.

a) Show that its speed at a distance r from Earth's center, where R_{E}\leq r\leq R_{E}+h, is given by

v=\sqrt{2GM_{E}(\frac{1}{r}-\frac{1}{R_{E}+h})}

b)Assume the release altitude is 500km. Perform the integral

\Delta t=\int^{f}_{i} dt=\int^{f}_{i} -\frac{dr}{v}

to find the time of fall as the object moves from the release point to the Earth's surface. The negative sign appears because the object is moving opposite to the radial direction, so its speed is

v= -\frac{dr}{dt}. Perform the integral numerically.


I am at a total loss with this one. It is my final physics problem ever! I am done with physics! (Computer Science major) Please, help. My head is about to explode.

Thank you.
 
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An object is released from rest at an altitude h above the surface of the Earth.

a) Show that its speed at a distance r from Earth's center, where R_{E}\leq r\leq R_{E}+h, is given by

v=\sqrt{2GM_{E}(\frac{1}{r}-\frac{1}{R_{E}+h})}

b)Assume the release altitude is 500km. Perform the integral

\Delta t=\int^{f}_{i} dt=\int^{f}_{i} -\frac{dr}{v}

to find the time of fall as the object moves from the release point to the Earth's surface. The negative sign appears because the object is moving opposite to the radial direction, so its speed is

v= -\frac{dr}{dt}. Perform the integral numerically.


I am at a total loss with this one. It is my final physics problem ever! I am done with physics! (Computer Science major) Please, help. My head is about to explode.

Thank you.

The first part results simply from the law of conservation of total energy of the particle's interaction with Earth.
By numerically u mean applying different methods of numerically solving integrals,e.g.the Runge-Kutta??I'm sorry,this part of computional mathematics is beyond my knowledge.
Hopefully somebody else would guide through point b).

Daniel.
 
The force law is F= -GmM/r2 so the potential energy at r is the integral of Fx dx from RE to r: GMm(1/r- 1/RE). Of course, the potential energy at RE+ h is given by the same formula: GMm(1/(RE+h)- 1/RE). The change in potential energy is the difference of those:
GMm(1/r- 1/(RE+h)) (the "1/RE" term cancel) and that must be equal to the acquired kinetic energy:
(1/2)mv2= GMm(1/r- 1/(RE+h)) . Solve for v.

Now, you want to integrate \int^{f}_{i} -\frac{dr}{v}
which, from the previous part is
-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2GM}}\int^{R_E}_{R_E+h}\frac{dr}{\sqrt{1/r-1/(R_E+h)}}

If you are a computer science major, you certainly ought to be able to integrate that numerically, using, say, Simpson's rule. Any calculus text will describe it.

(dextercioby: "Runge-Kutta" is a numerical technique for differential equations. Not necessary here.)
 
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