Upward Force required to break static friction

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The problem involves determining the upward force required to initiate movement of a pipe under static friction. The scenario includes a fixed point, a 36-inch shaft, and a load of 1700 lbs. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the static friction value and seeks clarification on the necessary force to overcome this friction and allow the pipes to roll.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for a visual aid to better understand the setup. There is mention of using equilibrium equations to analyze the forces involved. Questions arise regarding the correct static friction coefficient and whether the original poster's calculations are appropriate.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants seeking clarification on the problem setup and others suggesting methods to approach the calculation. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the use of equilibrium equations and the importance of the rolling friction coefficient.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of a visual representation of the problem, which may hinder understanding. There is also uncertainty regarding the static friction value provided by the original poster.

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Homework Statement



What is the upward force required to make pipe start to move?

There is a fixed point and a 36 inch shaft. The force would be applied 36 inches away to the point. The load is 1700lbs. The end point only needs to come up enough so that the static friction of the pipe is broke so that they start to roll and will be close together.

Homework Equations


downward force= 1700lbs
static friction=.78 (not sure if this is right)


The Attempt at a Solution



n=1700lbs*9.8

Forceup=?
 
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Welcome to PF! Unfortunately, your question is poorly phrased--a picture would surely be most helpful. Assuming you will provide that, do show the work you have done, so help can be provided, per PF rules.
 
here is the only pic i have. from the little circles is the 36 inches. I just need enough upward lift and force so that the pipes start to move. Hope this better explains my problem.

Thanks
 

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Use one of the equilibrium equations (which one?) to solve for the force at which the shaft will just start to rotate. Assume the pipes are equally spaced. The pipes will start to roll when rolling friction is exceeded, at an angle that is not being asked for, but which could be found if you knew the rolling friction coefficient. When the force is given in pounds, do not multiply by 9.8.
 

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