USAPhO F=ma 2010 exam # 17 (Gravitational potential energy)

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The gravitational potential energy of four masses arranged at the vertices of a tetrahedron with side length 'a' is calculated using the formula U = -Gm²/r. The correct total potential energy for this configuration is -6 * Gm²/r, derived from considering the work done against gravitational attraction as each mass is added sequentially. The discussion clarifies that the work done is not shared among the masses but is specific to the force required to position each mass in the gravitational field created by the others.

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Homework Statement



Four masses m are arranged at the vertices of a tetrahedron of side length a. What is the gravitational potential energy of this arrangement?

Homework Equations



U = -Gm2 / r

The Attempt at a Solution



The potential energy is the negative of the work done by gravity in this case, I believe. Basically, how much work would gravity do in order to assemble this tetrahedron, pulling the masses from infinity? Then take the negative of that.

To put 1 mass in place, 0 * Gm2 / r

To add the 2nd mass, 1 * Gm2 / r

To add the 3rd mass, (2 * Gm2 / r) divided by 2 because the work is shared by two masses doing the pulling. So, 1 * Gm2 / r

To add the 4th mass, (3 * Gm2 / r) / 3 with similar reasoning. So, 1 * Gm2 / r

Add it all together because energy is a scalar. And then take the negative.
-3 * Gm2 / r

However, the answer is -6 * Gm2 / r
 
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Hi Agrasin! Welcome to PF! :smile:
Agrasin said:
… To add the 3rd mass, (2 * Gm2 / r) divided by 2 because the work is shared by two masses doing the pulling …

What do you mean by "shared"?

Why does it make any difference? :confused:

Don't we want the total work done, no matter who does it?​
 
Agrasin said:

Homework Statement



Four masses m are arranged at the vertices of a tetrahedron of side length a. What is the gravitational potential energy of this arrangement?

Homework Equations



U = -Gm2 / r

The Attempt at a Solution



The potential energy is the negative of the work done by gravity in this case, I believe. Basically, how much work would gravity do in order to assemble this tetrahedron, pulling the masses from infinity? Then take the negative of that.

To put 1 mass in place, 0 * Gm2 / r

To add the 2nd mass, 1 * Gm2 / r

To add the 3rd mass, (2 * Gm2 / r) divided by 2 because the work is shared by two masses doing the pulling. So, 1 * Gm2 / r

To add the 4th mass, (3 * Gm2 / r) / 3 with similar reasoning. So, 1 * Gm2 / r

Add it all together because energy is a scalar. And then take the negative.
-3 * Gm2 / r

However, the answer is -6 * Gm2 / r

Hi Agrasin. Welcome to Physics Forums.

There's no "sharing" of the work done. Each new body is is being moved from infinity to a location in space where the existing field (caused by other bodies) is determining the potential. You only want to consider the work done by some theoretical agency in bringing the new body to that spot.

As a crude metaphor, imagine that some "hand" is moving the body very slowly from infinity to that spot. The work done by that "hand" is the work you're after. In the case of assembling masses which are mutually attractive, the "hand" actually has to restrain the body from accelerating all the way; the force it needs to apply is opposite to the direction of motion, hence the work done is negative.

[Ah! Beaten to the punch by tiny-tim.]
 

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