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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral using polar coordinates, specifically focusing on a region defined by a circle in the first quadrant. Participants are attempting to clarify the limits of integration and the correct setup for the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the radius of the circle and the limits of integration, with some suggesting that the radius is not as initially stated. There are questions about the area element in polar coordinates and how to correctly set up the double integral.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the setup of the integral and the need to include a factor of r when converting to polar coordinates. There is an ongoing exploration of the integration process, particularly regarding the use of integration by parts.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is also confusion regarding the interpretation of the original problem statement, particularly with respect to the limits and the function being integrated.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I first drew R, and from the circle equation, I know the radius of the circle is 12.5. Since the region is in the first quadrant, that'll mean that my limits of integration for r and theta would be[tex]\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{12.5}_{0}[/tex]

I'm getting confused on how to do the actual integration. My professor said to integrate by parts, but I'm still getting confused when doing it.
 
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Ral said:

Homework Statement


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does that say
[tex]e^\infty[/tex]
what does that mean?

Ral said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I first drew R, and from the circle equation, I know the radius of the circle is 12.5. Since the region is in the first quadrant, that'll mean that my limits of integration for r and theta would be[tex]\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{12.5}_{0}[/tex]

I'm getting confused on how to do the actual integration. My professor said to integrate by parts, but I'm still getting confused when doing it.

the radius is not 12.5, try looking at when y=0, what is x? This will be the point of the circle on the x axis. Also it should be theta from 0 to pi/2

now what is an area element dA in polar coordinates? Then set up you double integral with integrands, limits & the function in polar cooordinates, so we can see what the integral actually is
 
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Ral said:

Homework Statement


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9831/97118623.jpg


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The Attempt at a Solution


I first drew R, and from the circle equation, I know the radius of the circle is 12.5.
No, the radius is not 12.5.
Ral said:
Since the region is in the first quadrant, that'll mean that my limits of integration for r and theta would be[tex]\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{12.5}_{0}[/tex]
As already noted, the radius is not 12.5. Also, the region is not the entire circle, but just the part in the first quadrant.
Ral said:
I'm getting confused on how to do the actual integration. My professor said to integrate by parts, but I'm still getting confused when doing it.
Show us your converted polar-form double integral and we can go from there.
 
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lanedance said:
does that say
[tex]e^\infty[/tex]
I believe it is ex, but you're right, it is a bit hard to read.
 
Geez, making such stupid mistakes. That part that's hard to read is e^x, sorry about that. I'll retype it here.

[tex]\int\int_{R}ye^x[/tex]

So when I go into polar coordinates, I replace x and y with [tex]rcos\vartheta[/tex] and [tex]rsin\vartheta[/tex] I get

[tex]\int^{\pi/2}_{0}\int^{5}_{0}rsin\vartheta*e^{rcos\vartheta} rdrd\vartheta[/tex]

From there, I'm getting lost. Just realized I was missing an r too.
 
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You're missing a factor of r. dx dy --> r dr d[itex]\theta[/itex].
Your first integral is with respect to r. It essentially looks like this:
[tex]A\int r^2 e^{Br}dr[/tex]
where A = sin[itex]\theta[/itex] and B = cos[itex]\theta[/itex].

Since you're going to integrate with respect to r first, the sine factor can be treated as a constant. So can the cosine factor in the exponent on e.

This looks like a job for integration by parts to me. You'd like to get a new integral with a single factor r and the exponential factor in the integrand, and then do integration by parts one more time to get an integral with no factors of r, and just the exponential.
 
Mark44 said:
I believe it is ex, but you're right, it is a bit hard to read.

makes a bit more sense
 

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