Use voltage divison and current division to find

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a circuit problem involving voltage and current division to find specific currents and voltages in a given circuit configuration. Participants explore the application of these laws in the context of resistors in series and parallel.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using voltage division and questions its applicability to the problem, particularly regarding whether it applies to a single wire or node.
  • Another participant challenges the calculation of the equivalent resistance used in the current division formula, asking for clarification on how the 6 ohms was derived.
  • A participant later corrects their understanding, stating that the correct approach for current division involves using the total resistance in series rather than the equivalent parallel resistance.
  • After recalculating, the participant concludes that Io is 2A, using the total resistance of 32 ohms for the current division calculation.
  • Subsequent calculations for voltage (V) and output voltage (Vo) are presented, with the participant claiming these results are correct based on their revised understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows a progression from confusion to clarity for one participant, but there is no explicit consensus on the initial application of the voltage and current division laws. Disagreement exists regarding the correct interpretation of the equivalent resistance in the context of current division.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the application of voltage and current division laws, particularly regarding the treatment of resistors in series versus parallel configurations. The discussion reflects a learning process with corrections made over time.

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Homework Statement



http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8817/homeworkprob9.jpg


Find Io, find V, find Vo


Homework Equations



V = IR

And if these are right:


Voltage division:
(voltage across series resistor) = [ (resistance)/(total series resistance) ](total input V)


Current division (only for two resistors in parallel):
(current through parallel resistor) = [ (OTHER resistance)/(total parallel resistance) ](total incoming current)

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like I can't go anywhere else in the problem without first finding the current Io. I'm not sure how to use voltage division law properly. Does it only apply to one wire (one node)?

Same goes for current division law but I think I understand it better:


I simplified all resistors except for the 24Ω resistor. So I am left with 8Ω and 24Ω resistors in parallel, along with the 8 amp total current coming in.


Trying to solve Io with the current division law above, I get:

Io = (8Ω / 6Ω)8A = 10.6A

but it is wrong, supposedly. ( 6Ω in the equation because (1/8 + 1/24)^-1 = 6 , unless I got something wrong. )

Thank you.
 
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How you managed to bring 6 ohms into the split, I do not understand.

You have current splitting between 8 ohms and 24 ohms. What portion will flow through each?
 
Color_of_Cyan said:

Homework Statement



http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8817/homeworkprob9.jpg


Find Io, find V, find Vo


Homework Equations



V = IR

And if these are right:


Voltage division:
(voltage across series resistor) = [ (resistance)/(total series resistance) ](total input V)


Current division (only for two resistors in parallel):
(current through parallel resistor) = [ (OTHER resistance)/(total parallel resistance) ](total incoming current)

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like I can't go anywhere else in the problem without first finding the current Io. I'm not sure how to use voltage division law properly. Does it only apply to one wire (one node)?

Same goes for current division law but I think I understand it better:


I simplified all resistors except for the 24Ω resistor. So I am left with 8Ω and 24Ω resistors in parallel, along with the 8 amp total current coming in.
Yes, good so far.
Trying to solve Io with the current division law above, I get:

Io = (8Ω / 6Ω)8A = 10.6A

but it is wrong, supposedly. ( 6Ω in the equation because (1/8 + 1/24)^-1 = 6 , unless I got something wrong. )
Yup. Your current division is not right. It should be: ("other resistor"/"sum of the resistors") x current.
 
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Thanks.

Ok so instead of 6 ohms it's 32 ohms then, because 8 + 24 = 32. It's just the mathematical sum instead and not r equiv parallel resistance between (like i thought it was).


So Io is 2A then. It's the right answer too.


So then, V = IR makes V = (2A)(24Ω) = 48V, and that's also correct.


Lastly for Vo, 48V is in parallel with the rest of the circuit so it counts as the (total input V) when using voltage division to find Vo, so:

Vo = (30Ω / 80Ω)(48V) ---> Vo = 18V which is also correct.



Many thanks.
 

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