Using a Matching Transformer for 50 Ohm to 75 Ohm Coax

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The discussion revolves around the use of a matching transformer to connect a 50 ohm TV antenna to a 75 ohm coaxial cable, exploring the implications of impedance mismatch in TV applications. Participants share their experiences and seek clarification on the necessity and functionality of matching transformers and baluns in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about using a matching transformer to connect a 50 ohm antenna to a 75 ohm coaxial line.
  • Another participant suggests that the impedance mismatch may not be significant enough to warrant concern.
  • A different viewpoint proposes placing the matching transformer between the television and the 50 ohm cable instead of replacing the coaxial line.
  • Several participants inquire about the construction of a 50 ohm antenna and share their experiences with the Moxon design, indicating it can achieve 50 ohms.
  • There is a discussion about whether a balun is necessary for Moxon antennas, with some participants stating that Moxon designs are typically balanced, while others note that a balun may still be needed.
  • One participant asks for guidance on how to construct a balun, indicating a desire for more technical details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of a matching transformer or balun for the specific setup discussed. Multiple viewpoints exist regarding the implications of impedance mismatch and the design of the antenna.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the use of specific calculators and designs (e.g., Moxon calculator) but do not provide detailed methodologies or assumptions underlying their designs. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with antenna design and impedance matching concepts.

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hello, good afternoon. I'm a little bit confused about the use of matching transformer. I made a 50 ohm tv antenna, and i connected it to a 50 ohm coaxial line. However, I've found out that for tv applications, 75 ohm coax should be used. my question is, if i will replace my 50 ohm coax, can i use a matching transformer, that is, from 50 ohm antenna to my new 75 ohm coax? thanks
 
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i wouldn't worry about it too much. the mismatch (if there is any) is not great.
 
To answer your question, yes. But wouldn't it be easier to put your matching transformer between your television and the 50 ohm cable? That way you wouldn't have to change your cable.
 
chemic_23 said:
hello, good afternoon. I'm a little bit confused about the use of matching transformer. I made a 50 ohm tv antenna, and i connected it to a 50 ohm coaxial line. However, I've found out that for tv applications, 75 ohm coax should be used. my question is, if i will replace my 50 ohm coax, can i use a matching transformer, that is, from 50 ohm antenna to my new 75 ohm coax? thanks

How did you make a 50 Ohm antenna?
 
berkeman said:
How did you make a 50 Ohm antenna?

Only a ham would post such a thing. I was thinking the exact same question. Haha
 
i was thinking of that too, but i couldn't find a 50 to 75 ohm matching transformer in our place hehe :D i designed it using the moxon calculator :D it is okay to use a 50 ohm coaxial cable for tv?
 
chemic_23 said:
i was thinking of that too, but i couldn't find a 50 to 75 ohm matching transformer in our place hehe :D i designed it using the moxon calculator :D it is okay to use a 50 ohm coaxial cable for tv?

Ah, a Moxon design. Yeah, that can get you to 50 Ohms, from what I've read. I haven't worked with Moxon type antennas in the past. Do they still need a Balun to go from unbalanced coax? Is the Moxon inherently unbalanced or balanced?
 
i've read that it's already balanced, but in some cases, a balun is needed. how do you exactly make a balun?
 
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chemic_23 said:
i've read that it's already balanced, but in some cases, a balun is needed. how do you exactly make a balun?

To feed a balanced antenna like a dipole with an unbalanced feed line like coax, you need to use a balun ("balanced to unbalanced converter"). It is basically a transformer, and can have a turns ratio to match different feed line impedances to the antenna impedance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balun

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