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This was not a homework assignment, it's not necessary to understand the equation for this course, I was just interested in how they derived their answer.
The discussion centers on solving a complex number equation related to current in a circuit, specifically the expression [50/(4+j3)(50)+100] x 150. The original poster (OP) incorrectly simplified the complex number 4+j3 to its magnitude, 5, leading to confusion in the calculations. The correct approach involves using the complex conjugate to manipulate the expression into standard form, ultimately yielding the answer 20 - 10j. Participants emphasized the importance of clear mathematical notation and understanding complex numbers in circuit analysis.
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I should have said that we are only supposed to give hints and directions in a homework type of question. I think you should give it another try using the hint in my post #30 above.GJ1 said:This was not a homework assignment, it's not necessary to understand the equation for this course, I was just interested in how they derived their answer.
Although you have parentheses and brackets in your work, you don't have enough of them.Babadag said:50/[(4+3j)x50+100]x150=20-10j
And yet:Mark44 said:50/[(4+3j)x50+100]x150 means this:
$$\frac{50}{(4 + 3j) \cdot 50 + 100} \cdot 150$$
The above equals $$\frac {7500}{(4 + 3j) \cdot 50 + 100}$$
and does not equal 20 - 10j.
He doesn't. He gets 50/(2+j) from 150/( (4+j3)+2 ).GJ1 said:Can you just explain how you get 50/2+j from 150/(4+j)+2
I stand corrected.PeroK said:And yet:
$$\bigg [\frac{50}{(4 + j3)(50) + 100} \bigg ] \times 150 = \frac{150}{(4 + j3) + 2}= \frac{50}{2+ j} = \frac{(50)(2 - j)}{5} = 20 - j10 $$
UnderstoodFactChecker said:He doesn't. He gets 50/(2+j) from 150/( (4+j3)+2 ).
Please use parenthesis to make your math expressions clear.
This is not just a picky complaint. In these days of computers and calculators, they will always give you the wrong answer if the parenthesis are wrong.
And now the OP has what he wanted. A solution on a plate!Mark44 said:I stand corrected.
Right. But it won't go very far unless the OP has learned from this thread. Still, we should be careful to not give in to frustration and just give the answer.PeroK said:And now the OP has what he wanted. A solution on a plate!
We could give them a similar complex number manipulation question to test their understanding. Any volunteers?FactChecker said:Right. But it won't go very far unless the OP has learned from this thread.
Those parentheses do not match up. You are missing a "closing paren" somewhere. I'm having a little trouble guessing what the 50 over (4+j3) represents. What about the second 50? Some units would be nice.GJ1 said:It's (50/(4+j3)(50)