Using Gravitational constant to get the final velocity

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final velocity of an asteroid influenced by gravitational forces and atmospheric friction as it approaches Earth. The problem involves gravitational constants, potential energy, and the effects of friction on motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of gravitational force and potential energy to determine the asteroid's final velocity. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law and integrate to find work done, but confusion arises regarding the signs and the nature of the results. Questions about how to relate changes in potential energy to kinetic energy and the impact of friction are also raised.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating changes in potential energy and how to account for frictional forces. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the application of these concepts to find the final velocity, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods permissible for solving the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between potential energy, kinetic energy, and friction.

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Homework Statement


Evil Alien has put an Asteroid with
mass of 1,000,000kg to destroy mankind.
Distance from center of the Earth to Asteroid
(assume negligible center) is
10^8m and let's the gravitational force do the work.
Earth radius is 6.4 x 10^6m
and its mass is 5.98 x 10^24kg.
If the atmosphere extends out to 500km beyond
the surface and exrts an average friction force of 10^8N,
calculate the speed of the asteroid just before it hits the ground.
(Assume the asteroid rtains all of its mass as it travels through the atmosphere)



2. Relevant equation
Fgrav = Gm1m2/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to use F=ma first
by doing it so I get
F=Gm1m2/r^2=m1a
a=Gm2/r^2

However, could not do anything more since there is no dt.

So, I tried taking an integral of it,
finding the work and set it equal to kinetic energy
(not sure whether indefinite/definite integral matters)
integral of Gm1m2/r^2 = -Gm1m2/r
-Gm2/r^2=v^2
but got this and it cannot happen
because v^2 cannot be - number...
v=i(imginary)

I am stuck at this point have no
further suggestion on what I should do.

I've been working on it for about an hour
and would appreciate any help.
Thanks in advance
 
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The potential energy PE(r)=-G*m1*m2/r. You find the change in potential energy by subtracting PE(r=10^8m)-PE(r=radius of the earth). The difference is positive, not negative.
 
Oh I see, but how do you get v after finding the change in PE?
And from there how do I apply it to the interval which frictino decreases the speed?

I may be understanding something wrong.
Thanks again for the reply
 
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Part of the change in potential energy goes to overcoming the friction. The friction work is just force times distance. The rest of the potential energy becomes kinetic energy. Equate that to 1/2*mv^2.
 

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