Using Kirchhoff's Rules - Calculating Currents

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The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's Rules to calculate currents and voltage drops in a circuit. The user is attempting to determine the currents provided by the batteries and the voltage drop across a 1.2 Ω resistor. They express uncertainty about correctly applying the loop rule and understanding potential changes when traversing resistors. Clarifications are provided regarding the direction of current and voltage drops, emphasizing the importance of sign conventions in calculations. The user is encouraged to verify their equations for accuracy, particularly the signs in their loop equations.
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Homework Statement



What currents are provided by the batteries? What is the voltage drop across the 1.2 Ω
resistor?

Homework Equations


V = IR
Junction Rule = sum of current at a junction = 0
Loop Rule = sum of changes in potential around any closed path of a circuit must be 0

The Attempt at a Solution



I hope what I've drawn is clear enough. I 1 only goes around the small rectangle whereas I 2 encompasses the entire rectangle.

The current provided by the 12 V battery using the loop rule:

12 V + (3.9 Ω)(I1)+(1.2 Ω)(I1) + (9.8 Ω)(I1) = 0

Does that make sense? I'm unsure when it comes to these rules.
 

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When you "walk" around a loop doing a KVL sum, be sure to pay attention to the polarities of the potential changes. If you pass through a resistance in the same direction as the current, does the potential rise or drop? Also, it sounds as though you've specified that I2 also passes through the 3.9 and 9.8 Ohm resistors, so it must also contribute to the total potential change in those resistors.

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Okay I think I understand better. If the resistance is in the same direction as the current, that would be considered a voltage drop.

So really, I have two unknowns.

12 V - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (1.2 Ω)(I1) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) - (3.9 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I2)= 0

So then maybe applying this same loop rule to I2 I would have:

(3.9 Ω)(I2) - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (6.7 Ω)(I2) - 9V - (9.8 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) + 12 V = 0
 
PeachBanana said:
Okay I think I understand better. If the resistance is in the same direction as the current, that would be considered a voltage drop.

So really, I have two unknowns.

12 V - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (1.2 Ω)(I1) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) - (3.9 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I2)= 0

So then maybe applying this same loop rule to I2 I would have:

(3.9 Ω)(I2) - (3.9 Ω)(I1) - (6.7 Ω)(I2) - 9V - (9.8 Ω)(I2) - (9.8 Ω)(I1) + 12 V = 0

Yup. Just verify the sign of the first term in the loop 2 equation. Otherwise, nicely done.
 
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