Using Seismic Waves detected at 4 Seismometers to determine the Epicenter

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The discussion revolves around determining the epicenter of seismic waves using data from four seismometers. The problem involves understanding the relationship between arrival times of seismic waves and their propagation from the focus to the epicenter.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating the epicentral distance and express uncertainty about the relevance of the fourth station and the depth information. There are attempts to reconcile arrival time differences with geometric considerations, including angles and distances.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on the original poster's approach and the assumptions made regarding the data provided. There is an ongoing exploration of how to effectively utilize the available information, with no clear consensus on the best method yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the distances being small and the speeds of waves being constant, which may influence the calculations. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the need to locate the focus versus the epicenter.

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Homework Statement
Earthquake:
You know the geographical position of four different seismometers, the speed of the s-wave and p-wave, the level of the focus under the earths surface and the times of arrival of both of the waves at each station. Determine a way to find the exact location of the epicenter.

Note that the primary (p)-wave arrives before the secondary(s)-wave.
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My first attempt was to work with the the difference in arrival times, but that didnt account for the focus to be under the epicenter. So I tried again in combination with the angle between the stations but have not arrived at a clear solution.
 
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There does seem to be a surfeit of information. Knowing the difference in p/s arrival times and their speeds at three stations should be enough to locate the focus. The fourth station and given depth seem unnecessary. Hard to know whether you are expected only to use whatever sufficient set of data you choose, or you are supposed to use some likelihood maximisation.

But I don't understand how you can have computed the epicentre except by locating the focus. Please post the details of your attempt.

Mind, I am assuming that the stations are not too far apart, or you will have to worry about the core.
 
To be honest I didnt find my notes with the angle calculation of the center of the earth. Just these ones. I tried to get a formula for the epicentral distance first, to combine three of them an then find the Epicenter. I don't think it‘s right since I am not using the sphere/geographical coordinates.
There is btw the information given that the speeds are set to be constant and the distance are small. I forgot to write it into the question.
 

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Ira_anabelle said:
tried to get a formula for the epicentral distance first
I see no way to do that. The waves come from the focus, not the epicentre. You can calculate the distance from the focus to each station. That gives you a pyramid (inverted) on a quadrilateral base.
 

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