V774104: Mysterious Sednoid with No Known Orbit

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The discussion revolves around the object V774104, a distant sednoid with no known orbital elements since its discovery in November 2015. Participants express curiosity about the lack of updates on its orbit and the implications of its distance from the Sun.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that no astrometry has been submitted to the Minor Planet Center, leaving V774104's orbital parameters undetermined.
  • Others mention the initial discovery by Scott Sheppard using the Subaru Telescope and speculate on the time required to establish its orbit.
  • A participant compares V774104 to another object, uo3L91 (now known as 2013 SY99), highlighting the differences in their discovery timelines and distances from the Sun.
  • There is a humorous suggestion that V774104 could be an alien spaceship, with one participant joking about the implications of such a theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the lack of news regarding the refined orbit of V774104, but there are competing views on the implications of its status and the potential for future observations.

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Participants express uncertainty about the timeline for establishing orbital parameters and the challenges posed by the object's distance from the Sun.

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Readers interested in astronomy, particularly those following the discovery and classification of distant celestial objects, may find this discussion relevant.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V774104

"The discovery was announced at the November 2015".
"No astrometry has been submitted to the Minor Planet Center, so there are no publicly known orbital elements".

Hmm. This is an interesting object, one of the most distant, possibly only the third-ever discovered sednoid... and no news since initial discovery, no better orbit determination since then?
 
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nikkkom said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V774104

"The discovery was announced at the November 2015".
"No astrometry has been submitted to the Minor Planet Center, so there are no publicly known orbital elements".

Hmm. This is an interesting object, one of the most distant, possibly only the third-ever discovered sednoid... and no news since initial discovery, no better orbit determination since then?
Hi, I found this. From, http://www.lunarplanner.com/asteroids-dwarfplanets/Ninth-Planet/index.html
The Brown-Batygin computer modeling hypothesis comes along with the November 10, 2015 announcement of
another recently discovered dwarf planet by Scott Sheppard, an astronomer at the Carnegie Institution for Science, designated V774104. Sheppard and colleagues made the discovery using Japan’s Subaru
Telescope in Hawaii. V774104 is currently about 15.4 billion kilometers from the Sun (103 AU)
and is estimated to be between 500 and 1000 kilometers across. (It will take at least a year to determine its orbital parameters).

arxiv.org/pdf/1603.06520 ?
 
Still no news on the refined orbit?
 
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nikkkom said:
Still no news on the refined orbit?
Good question, I'll see what I can find.
 
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nikkkom said:
Still no news on the refined orbit?
Good question, I'll see what I can find.
We are at the end of the minimum time frame for establishing orbital parameters, maybe something soon.
This site would be worth watching for developments.
http://astronomy.activeboard.com/t61157602/v774104/
 
Interesting. Still no news.
 
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uo3L91 finally got its MPC designation a few months ago (now known as 2013 SY99) and it was discovered 3.5 years ago AND is ~40 au closer to the sun...so it may be awhile yet, til V774104 has an observation arc long enough to get a "page in the book".
 
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Dont Wanna said:
uo3L91 finally got its MPC designation a few months ago (now known as 2013 SY99) and it was discovered 3.5 years ago AND is ~40 au closer to the sun...so it may be awhile yet, til V774104 has an observation arc long enough to get a "page in the book".

So what are you saying? It is _not_ an alien spaceship from other stars?? My hopes are crushed... ;)
 
Of course it is an alien space ship. The aliens are merely making course adjustments to confound our ability to predict their arrival.
 

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