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I'm a modeller, and, as a modeller, I am very confident that these issues can be resolved without resorting to experiments (at least initially to get the lay of the land).PAllen said:Is my understanding correct that it should be possible to distinguish models experimentally, as follows (unfortunately, I have no relevant equipment or access to a lab):
Have a chamber with a rubber orifice which can be lubricated with different fluids, and is also connected to a vacuum pump. Then testing against rods and noodles of different thickness, ideally measuring the force exerted when the pump is running and the outside end of noodle and rod is attached to a force measuring device:
- boundary flow model would suggest that for a given lubricant, the effect is proportional radius (really circumference, but same difference for proportionality); and that different lubricants (high viscosity oil, low viscosity oil, sugar syrup, etc.) could make a significant difference.
- pressure dominant case would predict force proportional to radius squared, with minimal difference by lubricant, especially for radius not too small (only impact is friction, which would be less relevant as radius got larger).
Unfortunately, while using my mouth, I can easily determine there is more force for bigger radius, I have nowhere near the precision to distinguish proportional to r versus r2.
I feel very frustrated. I've been trying to get responders to focus exclusively on the noodle, using simple free body diagrams and force balances (and perhaps a smidgen of stress analysis), but no one seems willing. I contend that the uncooked noodle can be analyzed as a rigid- or slightly deformable rod, and that the limp noodle can be analyzed as either an inextensible- or slightly extensible rope.
I'm prepared to present such analyses myself, but I wanted to give others a chance. Anybody?
Please excuse my frustration.