Vector Algebra: Finding a parallel vector

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The problem involves a line described by the equation x + 2y - 3z = 7, with the goal of finding a vector parallel to this line in the Cartesian coordinate system. Participants express confusion regarding the nature of the equation, questioning whether it represents a line or a plane.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the equation, with some suggesting it describes a plane rather than a line. There are attempts to convert the equation into a vector form, and questions arise about the coordinates of a vector that would describe the direction of the line.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored. Some participants express uncertainty about the nature of the equation and its implications for finding a parallel vector. There is a suggestion to seek clarification from the professor, indicating a recognition of the need for further understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equation appears to describe a plane, leading to confusion about how to identify a direction vector. There is acknowledgment of the potential for multiple solutions or interpretations based on the equation's form.

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Homework Statement



A line is given by the equation ##x + 2y - 3z = 7##.
Find any vector in the direction parallel to this line in the Cartesian coordinate system.

Homework Equations



I imagine that there are some fundamental relationships I am missing here that would make this more comprehensible to me.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Looking at the problem at the surface it would make much more sense if he had described the equation as a "plane" rather than as a "line," and if he were asking for a vector either orthogonal or parallel to the plane. As it is, it's quite confusing. I've been sifting through materials but I can't get past that this looks like the equation for a plane, not a line, and it's worded (and written) very specifically -- the notation above is the notation the professor used (no vectors, "hats," etc, but that notation appears in other questions immediately around this one, so I feel he omitted it on purpose).

What I think I want to do is convert this to a vector equation of a line in form
\mathord{\buildrel{\lower3pt\hbox{$\scriptscriptstyle\rightharpoonup$}} <br /> \over r} = \left\langle {{x_0},{y_0},{z_0}} \right\rangle + t\left\langle {a,b,c} \right\rangle, but I'm not sure how to do that from this form.
 
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squelch said:

Homework Statement



A line is given by the equation ##x + 2y - 3z = 7##.
Find any vector in the direction parallel to this line in the Cartesian coordinate system.

Homework Equations



I imagine that there are some fundamental relationships I am missing here that would make this more comprehensible to me.

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Looking at the problem at the surface it would make much more sense if he had described the equation as a "plane" rather than as a "line," and if he were asking for a vector either orthogonal or parallel to the plane. As it is, it's quite confusing. I've been sifting through materials but I can't get past that this looks like the equation for a plane, not a line, and it's worded (and written) very specifically -- the notation above is the notation the professor used (no vectors, "hats," etc, but that notation appears in other questions immediately around this one, so I feel he omitted it on purpose).

What I think I want to do is convert this to a vector equation of a line in form
\mathord{\buildrel{\lower3pt\hbox{$\scriptscriptstyle\rightharpoonup$}}<br /> \over r} = \left\langle {{x_0},{y_0},{z_0}} \right\rangle + t\left\langle {a,b,c} \right\rangle, but I'm not sure how to do that from this form.
What are the coordinates of the vector that describe the direction of this line? Once you have this, the problem is trivial. You might want to use parametric equations.
 
Math_QED said:
What are the coordinates of the vector that describe the direction of this line? Once you have this, the problem is trivial. You might want to use parametric equations.

Finding that is, I think, precisely my problem. I have a candidate relation:
\hat x{A_x} + \hat y{A_y} + \hat z{A_z} = \mathord{\buildrel{\lower3pt\hbox{$\scriptscriptstyle\rightharpoonup$}} <br /> \over A}
But I'm not completely sure if I am using it correctly if I say:
\hat x + \hat y2 - \hat z3 = \mathord{\buildrel{\lower3pt\hbox{$\scriptscriptstyle\rightharpoonup$}} <br /> \over A}
 
The coordinate of this vector is any (x,y,z) for which: x + 2y - 3z = 0

This is the line going through (0,0,0), any coordinates on this line are coordinates of the direction of the vector you seek. Do you understand why?
 
Math_QED said:
The coordinate of this vector is any (x,y,z) for which: x + 2y - 3z = 0

This is the line going through (0,0,0), any coordinates on this line are coordinates of the direction of the vector you seek. Do you understand why?

I do not, precisely. I'm still not getting past the idea that the equation seems to describe a plane to me. It seems that if I pick any z, there would be infinitely many x and y that satisfy the equation, and that I wouldn't be able to pick out a particular direction.
 
As far as I can tell, this is a plane and not a line. Forget what I posted before (it's been a long time since I used this). The intersection of two planes would be the line, the equation represents an infinite amount of lines, aka a plane.
 
squelch said:

Homework Statement



A line is given by the equation ##x + 2y - 3z = 7##.
Find any vector in the direction parallel to this line in the Cartesian coordinate system.
squelch said:


Looking at the problem at the surface it would make much more sense if he had described the equation as a "plane" rather than as a "line," .
I agree. The equation above is definitely that of a plane.
 
Math_QED said:
As far as I can tell, this is a plane and not a line. Forget what I posted before (it's been a long time since I used this). The intersection of two planes would be the line, the equation represents an infinite amount of lines, aka a plane.

So I suppose my only recourse here is to go ask for clarification from the actual professor.

Thanks for the sanity check.
 

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