Vector Force - Supporting Vs. Hanging

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Vector forces in a hanging load scenario, such as a barbell held overhead, can be analyzed similarly when inverted. In a typical snatch-width grip, the angle between the arms affects the distribution of weight, with each arm supporting approximately 63% of the load at a 75-degree angle. The principles of vector forces remain applicable even when the system is inverted, though the free body vector diagram differs from the original. The discussion references the architectural work of Gaudi, who used inverted models to explore similar concepts. Overall, the principles of vector forces are consistent across different orientations.
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I have only a very basic understanding of vector forces in the context of hanging loads - for example, a weighted object anchored from two points, the internal angle between the two lines from those points to the load determining the actual force each line must support.

What I don't know is if the same vector forces apply if you essentially invert that system - that is, a single base with two support arms leaving it at an angle and supporting a single load (e.g. a barbell held overhead with a wide grip).

In a typical snatch-width grip, a lifter will have about a 75-degree angle between the arms. If this were a hanging system, this would mean each arm were supporting about 63% of the weight. Does this hold true in the opposite direction?

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Yes.
The free body vector diagram is not the same as the original diagram turned upside down. But the features relevant to your specific question are the same.
 
greg333 said:
What I don't know is if the same vector forces apply if you essentially invert that system
As far as I can see, the answer to your question is Yes. It may be difficult to produce two situations in practice that are clearly mirror images of each other but it's right in principle.

You may be interested to see what this link has to say about the idea. The Spanish architect Gaudi created a number of architectural designs for systems of arches, by making 'upside down' models, using chains with weights hanging on them. There are many examples of his work to be seen in Barcelona and there is a museum which shows models of his technique. nSo the idea certainly has legs.
 
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