Vector Integration: Solving \int_{S}\int n dS = 0 on Closed Surfaces

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Homework Statement



\int_{S}\int n dS = 0 for any closed surface S.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I can't solve this because I don't have any idea in Vector intregrals.
 
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It should only equal zero if it is conservative since the partial of n with respect to x equals the partial m with respect to y. I am not sure if this what you are looking for since I am not sure what your question is.
 
yusukered07 said:

Homework Statement



\int_{S}\int n dS = 0 for any closed surface S.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I can't solve this because I don't have any idea in Vector intregrals.

Homework Statement




Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



Hint: The result is a vector, so look at its components. The x component of a vector V is V \cdot i. So look at, for example:

i \cdot \int\int_S \hat n\ dS = \int\int_S i\cdot \hat n\ dS
 
LCKurtz said:
Hint: The result is a vector, so look at its components. The x component of a vector V is V \cdot i. So look at, for example:

i \cdot \int\int_S \hat n\ dS = \int\int_S i\cdot \hat n\ dS

What is i there?

n is normal line, I think
 
i is the unit vector in the x direction, the usual i,j,k notation. n is the unit outward normal.
 
If the vector field is always tangential to the surface (and therefore perpendicular with the normal of the surface), this relation is trivially true. If the vector field is 0 everywhere, then this relation is also trivially true. What is the question exactly? Find all such vector fields n for which this relation holds?
 
LCKurtz said:
i is the unit vector in the x direction, the usual i,j,k notation. n is the unit outward normal.

So, will you help me to make a proof?
 
Matterwave said:
If the vector field is always tangential to the surface (and therefore perpendicular with the normal of the surface), this relation is trivially true. If the vector field is 0 everywhere, then this relation is also trivially true. What is the question exactly? Find all such vector fields n for which this relation holds?

is there any proof you can show??

that's the question..
 
Matterwave said:
If the vector field is always tangential to the surface (and therefore perpendicular with the normal of the surface), this relation is trivially true. If the vector field is 0 everywhere, then this relation is also trivially true. What is the question exactly? Find all such vector fields n for which this relation holds?

As LCKurtz already pointed out, \textbf{n} is the outward unit normal to whichever closed surface is integrated over. The problem is to show that this integral is zero for any closed surface.
 
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yusukered07 said:
So, will you help me to make a proof?

We don't make proofs for you here. LCKurtz has given you a very good hint in his first reply, try using it and show us what you get. You should find that the divergence theorem is very useful to you here:wink:
 
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