Velocity of a ball at the highest point using the radius

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To determine the velocity of the ball at the highest point of its swing, the conservation of energy principle is applied, where the potential energy (PE) at the highest point equals the kinetic energy (KE) at the lowest point. The total energy can be expressed as mg(2r) for potential energy and (1/2)mv^2 for kinetic energy. The mass (m) cancels out in the equations, allowing the calculation of velocity without needing its value. The correct approach involves setting the initial potential energy equal to the kinetic energy at the lowest point to find the velocity. Understanding the energy conservation concept is crucial for solving this problem.
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Homework Statement


The string in the Figure is L = 102.0 cm long and the distance d to the fixed peg P is 73.4 cm. When the ball is released from rest in the position shown, it will swing along the dashed arc.How fast will it be going when it reaches the highest point in its swing?

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Homework Equations


PE: mg(2r)
KE: (1/2)*mv^2

mg(2r)+(1/2)*mv^2= C (Total E)

The Attempt at a Solution



Having troubles. The M's do not cancel out in this one soo I am all flustered. Is it just alegbra now? But my question is what is C? How can the M's cancel out so that I can begin to compute V. I mean I found the velocity at the lowest point of the arc which was 4.47124 m/s. So I guess with knowing velocity I can figure out mass but when I tried that I was still a little confused.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Energy is conserved. Write the energy for the initial position of the ball to get the total energy.

ehild
 
How would I write it for initial position?

I thought I wrote it for total E?
mg(2r)+(1/2)*mv^2
 
The total energy is the same at every position of the ball, 1/2 mv2 + mgh (h is the height with respect to the lowest position). Look at the initial position before the ball is released and stationary yet. What is the potential energy?

ehild
 
So your saying to find the highest point, which is in the circle I should do:

(1/2)mv^2 = mg(2r)

(1/2)v^2 = g(2r)

V = sqrt ((g(2r))/.5)?
 
lanzjohn said:
So your saying to find the highest point, which is in the circle I should do:

(1/2)mv^2 = mg(2r)

(1/2)v^2 = g(2r)

V = sqrt ((g(2r))/.5)?

And no that is incorrect. So I take it that is not at all what you said.

Well how can I find PE if I don't know mass?
 
lanzjohn said:
And no that is incorrect. So I take it that is not at all what you said.

Yes, what you did was wrong. But you did not do what I have said. Hint: read the problem again and look at the figure.

ehild
 
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