Velocity of an object Rotating in vacuum , Gravity applies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a ball rotating in a vacuum chamber, specifically examining the effects of gravity, tension, and friction on its velocity. Participants explore theoretical scenarios involving centripetal force and the implications of a vacuum environment on motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if a ball is rotated in a vacuum at an initial speed of 20 m/s, it would hypothetically maintain that speed indefinitely, assuming no friction or air resistance exists.
  • Others argue that gravity will still affect the ball in a vacuum chamber, and unless the ball is levitated, friction will eventually slow it down.
  • There is a question about whether centripetal force could counteract gravity if the speed is sufficient to produce an acceleration of 9.81 m/s².
  • Some participants express confusion about the role of tension in the scenario, particularly regarding a ball tied to a rope and its implications for speed in a vacuum.
  • One participant emphasizes that the presence of a vacuum does not eliminate friction between the rope and the pole to which it is tied.
  • Questions arise about the relevance of the vacuum condition and how it compares to a situation in air, particularly if friction is assumed to be absent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the implications of gravity and friction in the scenario, with multiple competing views on how these forces interact with the motion of the ball in a vacuum.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the absence of friction and the specific conditions under which the ball is rotating, as well as the unclear role of tension in the system.

SeeKeeDeeDoo
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I was wondering what might happen If we for instant, Rotated a ball around an axis in a vacuum chamber.
First, If the initial speed was 20m/s would it remain like that forever, hypotheticaly saying No friction exists and that Air Resistance does not exist as the Ball rotates in vacuum.

Also Will centripetal force cancel out gravity if the speed is high enough to produce 9.81m/s2 Acceleration?

Also Will Tension Affect Speed ?
 
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An object in a vacuum chamber on Earth is still affected by gravity. Unless you levitated the ball in the vacuum chamber so that its surface did not touch anything, eventually friction would retard the spin of the ball.

A spinning ball is still affected by gravity, whether or not it's in a vacuum chamber. Remember, gravity attracts an object toward the center of the earth.

It's not clear what tension you are talking about.
 
SteamKing said:
An object in a vacuum chamber on Earth is still affected by gravity. Unless you levitated the ball in the vacuum chamber so that its surface did not touch anything, eventually friction would retard the spin of the ball.

A spinning ball is still affected by gravity, whether or not it's in a vacuum chamber. Remember, gravity attracts an object toward the center of the earth.

It's not clear what tension you are talking about.
I haven't totally understood your answer.
To be more simple, would the ball "Which is tied to a rope and the other end of the rope is tied to a pole" projected at 20 m/s Maintain its speed in vacuum **assuming No friction exists, Only gravity exists**

The tension in the rope.
 
If the ball is tied to anything, the friction in the rope or the friction between the rope and what it's tied to is eventually going to bring the motion of the ball to a stop. The presence of a vacuum is not, by itself, going to eliminate friction between objects in contact with one another.
 
SeeKeeDeeDoo said:
I haven't totally understood your answer.
To be more simple, would the ball "Which is tied to a rope and the other end of the rope is tied to a pole" projected at 20 m/s Maintain its speed in vacuum **assuming No friction exists, Only gravity exists**

The tension in the rope.
If you assume that friction does not exist anyway, what is the point of the vacuum?
What do you think will the vacuum change in the problem, as compared with the situation in air?
 

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