Verifying Efficiency in a Thermodynamic System: Q1 & Q2

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The discussion focuses on verifying the efficiency of a thermodynamic system using the equations e = 1 - (Tc/Th) and eff = W/Qh. The initial calculations indicate that the efficiency for one scenario is 42%, while another scenario yields an efficiency of 0.35. Participants confirm the correctness of the first calculation and guide the user on solving the second problem through substitution. A mistake in unit conversion is identified, suggesting that temperatures should remain in Kelvin throughout the calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of consistent unit usage to avoid errors in thermodynamic efficiency calculations.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


e = 1 - (Tc/Th)
(Temp in Kelvins)

The Attempt at a Solution


e = 1 - (300k/520k) = .42 or 42%
No because the engine can only perform 42 J of work for each 100 J of energy.

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


eff = 1 - (Tc/Th)
eff = W/Qh

The Attempt at a Solution



I know:
e = .35
Th = 180*C + Tc
Tc = Th - 180*

Need someone to verify number 1 for me and to help me solve number 2. Thanks in advance.
 
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Number 1 is right. For number 2, you have all the equations you need. You have
e = 0.35 = 1-\frac{T_C}{T_H}
and
Th = 180+ Tc
So you can solve them together by substitution.
 
LeonhardEuler said:
Number 1 is right. For number 2, you have all the equations you need. You have
e = 0.35 = 1-\frac{T_C}{T_H}
and
Th = 180+ Tc
So you can solve them together by substitution.

ok so...

.35 = 1 - [(Tc + 273)K / (Tc + 180 + 273)K]

.35 = 1 - [(Tc + 273K) / (Tc + 453K)]

-.65 = - [(Tc + 273K) / (Tc + 453K)] (divide by -1 on both sides)

.65 = [(Tc + 273K) / (Tc + 453K)]

.65(Tc + 453K) = Tc + 273K

.65Tc + 294.45K = Tc + 273K

21.45K = .35Tc

Tc = 61.29K (convert to *C) = -211*C

This can't be right. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong?
 
You're units are not right. If you put in the "+273", then you are already solving for the temperatures in Celsius, so you don't need to convert in the end. Alternatively, and I think this is easier, you could solve it without the "+273"'s to get the answer in Kelvin, and convert in the end. But you got the right answer in Celsius before you converted.
 
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