Vertical and Horizontal Asymptotes

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The discussion revolves around identifying the vertical and horizontal asymptotes of the function 2x²/√(x⁴-81). Participants are exploring the implications of the square root in the denominator on the function's behavior and domain.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to find vertical asymptotes and expresses confusion regarding the square root in the denominator. Some participants discuss the conditions under which vertical asymptotes occur and question the implications of the square root on the function's definition and asymptotic behavior.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the conditions for vertical asymptotes and the function's domain. There is a recognition of the need to consider both real and complex solutions, and some guidance has been provided regarding the behavior of the function for large values of x.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the constraints imposed by the square root, specifically that the function is not defined where x⁴ ≤ 81. Participants are also exploring the implications of this constraint on the vertical asymptotes.

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Homework Statement


What are the vertical and horizontal asymptotes for:
2x2/ SQRT(x4-81)?



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The Attempt at a Solution


For one VA, I got x=3. Are there any more? I am troubled with this square root on the bottom.
 
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Practically, what the square root on the bottom does is two things:
1) It limits where the function can be defined. If x4>81, then the function is not defined. It also has the potential to make asymptotic behavior different... an example is something like

[tex]\frac{x-1}{ \sqrt{(x^4-1)(x-1)}}[/tex]

At first glance it appears to have an asymptote at x=1 and x=-1, but the x-1 at the top cancels with the x-1 in the denominator (you can see this by factoring the denominator) in the limit as x approaches 1, so no asymptotic behavior occurs.

What's required for a zero in the denominator to cause a vertical asymptote is for there to be no canceling zeroes, or not enough canceling zeroes at least, in the numerator. Having a square root can effect this as it effectively "halves" the power of the zero in the denominator.

You definitely have at least one more vertical asymptote. For what x is x4-81=0? You should be able to fully solve this (either by factoring or by noticing you can set x2=y and solving y2-81=0 first)
 
You got x4-81=x4-34=(x2-32)(x2+32)

Can you determine the other values for x for which the denominator is 0 ?
 
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For very large x (but negative since x cannot be larger than [itex]\sqrt[4]{81}[/itex]) we can ignore the "81" in comparison with the "x4". Then [itex]2x^2/\sqrt{x^4- 81}[/itex] is approximately [itex]2x^2/\sqrt[4]{x^4}[/itex].
 
HallsofIvy said:
For very large x (but negative since x cannot be larger than [itex]\sqrt[4]{81}[/itex]
Oh? So x must be less than [itex]\sqrt[4]{81}[/itex]? I didn't know we were searching for complex solutions as well :-p Please consider revising this sentence.

[itex]x^4[/itex] is positive for all real x, not just negative x.

Therefore, the domain is only defined where [tex]\sqrt{x^4-81}> 0[/tex]

If you know how to solve this, it leaves x<-3, x>3

HallsofIvy said:
we can ignore the "81" in comparison with the "x4". Then [itex]2x^2/\sqrt{x^4- 81}[/itex] is approximately [itex]2x^2/\sqrt[4]{x^4}[/itex].

Just to fix the denominator up slightly: for large [itex]\pm x[/itex] the function tends towards [tex]y=\frac{2x^2}{\sqrt{x^4}}[/tex] so you can simplify this and this will give you the horizontal asymptote :smile:
 

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