VERY simple Velocity vs time graph interpretation

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The discussion revolves around interpreting a velocity vs. time graph to determine position and displacement. The initial confusion stems from mixing up time with distance, leading to incorrect calculations. Participants clarify that the area under the curve represents displacement, while the final position requires knowledge of the initial position. The correct approach involves adding displacement to the initial position to find the final position. Understanding the distinction between displacement and position is crucial for accurate graph interpretation.
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Wow, I'm extremely frustrated with this one.

Homework Statement



http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4616/probre1.jpg

I forgot to label the axis's. The X is time and the Y is Velocity

The Attempt at a Solution



Iv done a few things on this one:

First, I figured I would just count the area under it but I submitted the answer and it was wrong

Second, I used x = x(o) + v(o)t plugging in the velocity and time from the graph along with the x(o) which is given in the problem

Any help is appriciated, Thank You
 
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You have to find the area under the curve to find position.

If you can't maybe this will help: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/513/17914212vr1.jpg
 
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See, I did that and counted the area under the positive area in the first quadrant and then I subtracted it from the negative area in the 4th quad. I got 29 for the positive area and 6 for the negative, giving me 23 and it was wrong. So I figured maybe I had to add the areas for 35 but that as well came out wrong. :confused:
 
23m is the displacement. You are asked for the position.
 
ughh, 1 more hint, I am not getting it
 
If the initial position is x(0)=-10 m and the displacement is 15 m, what's the final position?
 
x(0) is 10. I'm confused how the position is different from the displacement. I know the displacement is how far away it is from the orgin no matter how it travels but the position would be. I'm just not seeing it .
 
You are initial at x(0)=10 m. If your displacement \Delta x is -10 m you should arrive to the origin.

\Delta x=x_f-x_i\Rightarrow x_f=\Delta x+x_i

Do you understand that?
 
I'm sorry, This isn't making sense to me, I'm usually good with graph interpretation.
 
  • #10
Ok, let's try this.

The initial position is 12 m. You walk 4 m at the positive direction. What is your displacement and what is your final position?
 
  • #11
displacement would be 4 m and your final position is 16 m. I see where your going with this so I would simply add my displacement to the initial position? make the answer 33?
 
  • #12
Correct! :smile:
 
  • #13
You know what it was? I was thinking of the X axis as if it were distance even though I KNEW it was time. Because of this I was thinking its position was at 9 and from the initial position it would be -1 m . DUHHH. Thanks so much for your help.
 
  • #14
Always it helps if you draw a picture o the actuall movement!
Glad I helped! :smile:
 
  • #15
When you take the area under a curve you're finding the change in what ever quantity you're asked for. You need some sort of condition if you want to find the exact value. Without knowing that x(0) = 10m the best you could say about the graph would be the object moved 23m but I can't tell you EXACTLY where it is or EXACTLY where is started. Does that make sense?
 
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