What was causing the very weird problem?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with correctly dissociating polyprotic acids and the incorrect use of the dissociation equation. The problem is eventually solved through clarification of the exact wording and a reminder to consider all factors.
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Very weird problem here...

Problem solved... nm thanks for your help though...
 
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apchemstudent said:
0.035 L * 3 M of H2SO4 = 0.105 mols of H2SO4
H2SO4 -> 2 H+ + SO42-

Theres your first problem. Polyprotic acids don't disassociate all at once. The correct reaction would be
[tex]H_2SO_4 \longrightarrow H^+ + HSO_4^-\ \ \ K_a = high[/tex]
[tex]HSO_4^- \longrightarrow H^+ + SO_4^{2-}\ \ \ K_a = a\ lot\ less [/tex]
 
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so-crates said:
Theres your first problem. Polyprotic acids don't disassociate all at once. The correct reaction would be
[tex]H_2SO_4 \longrightarrow H^+ + HSO_4^-\ \ \ K_a = high[/tex]
[tex]HSO_4^- \longrightarrow H^+ + SO_4^{2-}\ \ \ K_a = a\ lot\ less [/tex]

Ya, i think my teacher wants to pretend it dissociates completely. However though, that still won't solve my problem. If we pretend only 1 H+ dissociates we have 0.105 moles of H+

(.105 - .075)/3 does not equal .105/4
 
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Could you state the exact wording of the problem? What you wrote is rather confusing.
 
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Yes, apchemstudent, please write the exact wording and we will discuss it. It is good that you've made much effort to solve it, and maybe we'll see a little point you may have forgotten.
 
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figured out the mistake...
 
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