Visible light Absorption Spectra vs Color of mineral

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The discussion revolves around understanding how the absorption spectra of minerals, specifically a Bolivian Amethyst, relates to their perceived color. Participants explore the relationship between absorption peaks and the resulting color, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of light interaction with materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to interpret the color of a mineral using its absorption spectra, specifically mentioning the purplish color of the Bolivian Amethyst.
  • Another participant notes that absorption below 400 nm is UV and suggests focusing on the absorption peak around 500-600 nm, indicating that the complementary color to green-yellow is purple.
  • A different participant explains that when light interacts with an object, it can be absorbed, transmitted, or reflected, and emphasizes that reflection is what is perceived as color.
  • One participant seeks clarification on how to quantify the exact tone or wavelength of color from the absorption data, expressing uncertainty about the broader absorption spectrum from 450 to 700 nm.
  • Another participant asserts that the graph provides the only quantitative description of color, arguing that perceived color encompasses all absorbed wavelengths rather than a single wavelength.
  • One participant draws an analogy between perceived color and taste, suggesting that both involve multiple components at varying intensities.
  • A later reply suggests combining the absorption graph with a light source graph and integrating the results using "tristimulus values" for human vision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to interpret the absorption spectra in relation to perceived color, with no consensus on the best method for quantifying color tone from the data.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of color perception, noting that it involves multiple wavelengths and intensities, and that the interpretation of absorption spectra may depend on various assumptions and definitions.

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I have been wondering how to realize the color of a mineral by having the absorption Spectra...

The following case is an example;

amethyst.gif


The image is the absorption spectra of a Bolivian Amethyst which looks like this;

[PLAIN]http://www.tequilabay.com/amethyst300lbbolivian.jpg
I have tried interpreting the purplish color just by reading the spectra, but I wasn't successful... So I will be very thankful for your guidance.
 
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Well all the absorption below 400 nm is UV and so you can ignore that part. You have an absorption peak around 500-600 nm, which is in the green-yellow region.
The complementary color to green-yellow is purple.
 
When light fall on an object, it does 3 things : it gets absorbed, transmitted and reflected.

Assuming the gems are sufficiently thick, we can assume there is no transmission. That leaves absorption and reflection.

As you see in your graph, the absorption is minimal around 450 nm, which means there is a reflection peak at around 450 nm. Remember the reflection is what we see.

Then you use this chart :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rendered_Spectrum.png
 
alxm said:
Well all the absorption below 400 nm is UV and so you can ignore that part. You have an absorption peak around 500-600 nm, which is in the green-yellow region.
The complementary color to green-yellow is purple.

This is sure helpful but what about the rest of the absorptions throughout the 450 - 700 nm spectrum?

How to get the exact tone or wavelength of the color in a quantitative way?

Thanks in advance :)
 
I don't see what you want more. The graph describes the "tone" the only quantitative way it can be described. You can't restrict to a single wavelength. The eye absorbs everything within 450 - 700 nm. The "color" that is perceived includes all the absorbed wavelengths of the graph.
 
Basically, the perceived color of a surface includes many wavelengths at varying intensities, just like the perceived taste of a pizza includes flavors of many ingredients in varying intensities.
 
You combine this graph with one for the light source. Then integrate the result with "tristimulus values" for human vision.
 

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