Visualizing intersecting multidimensional objects.

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The discussion revolves around the visualization of intersecting multidimensional objects, specifically focusing on the intersection of 2D planes in 4D space and extending the concepts to higher dimensions. Participants explore the implications of dimensionality on intersections and the mathematical representation of planes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the intersection of two 2D planes in 4D, which do not share a dimension, must be a point when viewed from either plane, while also considering the possibility of no intersection.
  • Another participant proposes a parametric representation of planes, indicating that in 4D space, two planes lead to a single point intersection due to having four equations in four unknowns.
  • A later reply questions whether the parametric form can be applied to higher dimensions, suggesting that intersections in higher-dimensional spaces may yield different results, such as lines or planes, depending on the dimensionality of the spaces involved.
  • It is noted that the parametric form is applicable in any number of dimensions, with the dimensionality of the intersection depending on the parameters used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of intersections in higher dimensions, with some proposing specific outcomes while others explore the implications of dimensionality without reaching a consensus.

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Participants discuss the limitations of their reasoning based on the assumptions about dimensionality and the nature of the planes involved, but these assumptions remain unresolved.

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Readers interested in higher-dimensional geometry, mathematical representations of planes, and the implications of dimensionality on intersections may find this discussion relevant.

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If we look at 2 intersecting orthogonal planes in 3D, the intersection forms a line if you are "living" on either plane. How would the intersection look if there are 2D planes in 4D where the planes do not share a dimension? For example plane 1 exists on X and Y, and plane 2 exists on Z and T. I'm figuring it must be a point if viewed from either plane. Is this correct? The other answer might be there is no intersection, but I don't think this can be correct.
 
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This belongs in the math forum.

One way to approach it is to consider the representation of the plane in parametric form, such as: X=A+Bu+Cv, where u and v are parameters, while A, B, C are constant vectors and X is a point on the plane.

In 3 space, when you have 2 planes, you will have 3 equations in 4 unknowns (the (u,v) parameters for each plane). The solution is then a line. In 4 space, you have 4 equations in the same 4 unknowns, leading to a single point.
 
Thanks Mathman for your answer. I'm a bit dense, does this parametric form work even higher dimensions? Let's say the last example 2 planes in a 4 space, could be considered 2 different 2 spaces both within a 4 space. By my reasoning a 3 space and 2 space that are both within a 5 space where they don't share any common dimensions, the intersection would appear as a line in both the smaller spaces in question. With two 3 spaces within a 6 space which don't share common dimensions, the intersection in each 3 space would be a plane or a common 2 space (which is not comprised of any of the discrete dimensions which make up the 6 space). Thanks
 
The parametric form works in any number of dimensions. One parameter gives a curve (1 dim.), two parameters a surface (2 dim.), three parameters a solid (3 dim.), etc., where the number of dimensions of the underlying space is the same as the dimension of the vectors.

To get "flat things", the parameters appear as first powers only. Other objects will have higher powers, functions (such as sin, cos), and functions involving products of parameters, etc.
 

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