Volume of Right Circular Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of fluid in a right circular cylinder as a function of the fluid's depth. The original poster is exploring the relationship between the cylinder's geometry and the volume calculation, specifically through the use of integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster considers setting up an integral to calculate the area of the circular cross-section as a function of fluid depth. They also question whether to integrate this area to find the total volume. Other participants clarify the problem's focus on the fluid's volume rather than the cylinder's total volume and discuss the geometry of the fluid layers.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the problem's requirements and exploring the geometric relationships involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the setup of the problem, particularly in terms of visualizing the fluid layers and their dimensions.

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There is some confusion regarding the definitions and dimensions used in the problem, particularly concerning the height of fluid layers and the coordinates involved in the circular cross-section. The discussion reflects a need for precise definitions and assumptions about the setup.

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I need to find the volume of this right circular cylinder as a function of the depth of the fluid. I am having trouble starting this problem.

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/210/volume4ju.jpg

I realize the equation for the cross sectional view of the cylinder is

[tex]x^2 + y^2 = 1^2[/tex].


Any suggestions on what to look at next?

Should I be looking to set up an integral to find the area of that circle as a function of the depth of the fluid? Then, once I do that, find an integral to get me the volume of the fluid across the length cylinder?
 
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First you need to state the problem correctly. You are NOT trying to find the volume of the right circular cylinder. (That's [itex]5\pi[/itex] cubic meters.) You are trying to find the volume of the fluid in the cylinder.

Think about a think layer of fluid, of thickness dz, at height z above the bottom of the tank. It is, of course, a thin rectangle with width 5 m and height 2x (x is the x coordinate at y= 1-z). Yes, x2+ y2= x2+ (1-z)2= 1 so
[tex]x= \sqrt{1- (1-z)<sup>2</sup>} . The volume is the integral of the area of that rectangle dz with z going from 0 to d.[/tex]
 
How is the height 2x? What do you mean by the "x is the x coordinate at y=1-z" ?
 
Each "layer of water" is a rectangle. One side (it doesn't matter if you think of it as "length", "width", "height") is that 5 m length of the tank. The other is measured from one side of the circular face to the other. If you take x to be horizontal, y vertical, so that the circular face has equation
x2+ y2= 1, then that length is 2x. I am taking, as I said, z to be measured from the bottom of the circle up. At the bottom, y= -1 so that y= -1+z. (I said y= 1-z since by symmetry you could have taken positive y downward. Since your formula involves only y2 it doesn't matter whether you use z-1 or 1- z.)
 

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