Volume of water required to cool thermal/nuclear plants?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of cooling water needed for thermal and nuclear power plants based on their energy production and efficiency. The user attempts to convert energy outputs from TWh to Joules and applies the specific heat equation to determine the mass and volume of water required, initially arriving at incorrect figures. They realize that their calculations for waste heat energy need to be done before converting to Joules, which affects their final results. Despite following the same method for both plant types, discrepancies in the final volume calculations lead to confusion regarding the correct answer. The user seeks clarification on their conversion process and calculations to align with the expected results.
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Homework Statement


In the year 2004 the USA produced 1787 TWh of electrical energy in conventional thermal plants and 476 TWh in nuclear plants. Assuming 30% efficiency for nuclear plants and 40% for conventional thermal plants, determine the (annual) volume of cooling water required to cool these plants in once-through cooling if the cooling water undergoes a temperature increase of 10°C. (Neglect the heat lost up the chimney in conventional plants, and assume two significant digits in given data.)
ηthermal=.4
Ethermal=1787 TWh
ηnuclear=.3
Enuclear=476 TWh

Homework Equations


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η=Useful (electrical) energy/total energy in
Q=mcΔT
Volume=mass/ρ
1 TWh=10^9 KWh
1 kWh = 3.6*10^6 J

The Attempt at a Solution


I did each plant one separately (of course) and converted the 1787 TWh of the thermal plant to Joules so that I could use it in the specific heat equation. When I converted it to Joules I got 9.5*10^24 Joules. I took that number and plugged it into my specific heat equation to get 2.3*10^20 kg. I plugged that mass into the Volume equation and got a volume of 2.3*10^17 m^3

I did the same steps for the nuclear plant and got 4*10^16 m^3.

Because the book only has one answer, I assumed they added the two up and got 2.7*10^17 m^3. The answer in the book is 2.7*10^11 m^3. So I'm close, but my exponent is off. I'm pretty sure I'm converting it correctly from TWh to Joules.

I also found that when I converted the TWh to MJ instead of Joules, I get the right answer, but I can't have it in MJ because the specific heat equation uses 4186 Jkg-1K-1
 
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Let's see more details of your calculation.
 
Chestermiller said:
Let's see more details of your calculation.
I think I also forgot to type out another step I took. Using the efficiency equation, I did 1787 TWh/.4 and got 4467.5 TWh.
I used 4467.5 TWh and 1787 TWh to find the waste heat energy. So I did 4467.5-1787 and got 2680.5 TWh. Because this is still in TWh, I converted it to Joules. (Should I convert it to Joules before I find the waste heat energy?)

Okay, here is my conversion from TWh to Joules.

2680.5 TWh x 1012W/1 TW x 1 J/s/1 W x 3600s/1 h = 9.65*1024 J (I originally wrote that I got 9.5*10^24 J, but it's actually 9.65*10^24. I still get the same answer though)

9.65*1024J/4186J*10K = 2.3*1020 kg

2.3*1020 kg/1000 = 2.3*1017m3

For the second plant, I took the exact same steps.

Using the efficiency equation, I did 476 TWh/.3 and got 1586.7 TWh.
I used 1586.7 TWh and 476 TWh to find the waste heat energy. So I did 1586.7-476 and got 1110.7 TWh. This is still in TWh, so I converted it to Joules.

1110.7 TWh x 1012W/1 TW x 1 J/s/1 W x 3600s/1 h = 4*1024 J

4*1024J/4186J*10K = 9.6*1019

9.6*1019 kg/1000 = 9.56*1016

If I add those two up, I get (2.3*1017) + (9.56*1016) = 3.25*1017m3

I did realize that I forgot to find the waste heat energy first the second time around, but even with finding the waste heat energy, I still get the wrong answer.
 
Check your multiplication.
 
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