Volumes of Cross Sections with Perpendicular Planes

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid whose base is a circle defined by the equation x² + y² = 9. The solid has cross sections that are semicircles with diameters aligned along the base, specifically perpendicular to the y-axis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to identify the necessary steps to solve the problem, noting the integral limits based on the circle's radius but expressing uncertainty about how to proceed. Some participants suggest visualizing the solid and its cross sections to aid understanding. Others discuss the area of semicircles and how to express the diameter in terms of x, leading to confusion about the integration process.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem and discussing the setup for the integral. Some have made attempts to derive the volume using the area of semicircles, while others are clarifying the relationship between the diameter and the radius. There is no explicit consensus on the final approach, but some guidance has been offered regarding the visualization of the solid.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of drawing the solid to better understand the problem, and there are references to the teacher's suggestion to plot the solid for clarity. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and attempts to reconcile different interpretations of the problem's requirements.

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Hey guys I am new here i was wondering if anyone can help me understand this problem better

Homework Statement


The base of a certain solid is the circle x^2 + y^2 = 9. Cross sections of the solid with planes perpendicular to the y-axis are semicircles with their diameter in the base of the solid. find the volume of the solid.

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I cannot figure out where to start this problem. I know this will be an integral from -3 to 3 since its a circle with radius 3, but I am not sure how to proceed after that. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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It sounds like you need to know the area of half a sphere of radius 3 centred at the origin. It is a solid with a base which is a circle of this radius, further it says that cross sections of the solid are semicircles with diameter in the base, which I take to mean, having also a radius 3?
 
Gregg said:
It sounds like you need to know the area of half a sphere of radius 3 centred at the origin. It is a solid with a base which is a circle of this radius, further it says that cross sections of the solid are semicircles with diameter in the base, which I take to mean, having also a radius 3?

im not exactly sure..i can't figure out what the problem exactly wants i asked my teacher for a hint and he said "plot it on a xyz axis and figure out what the picture looks like and sum all the cross sections" that didnt help much though so I am still pretty confused
 
Your teacher gave you a place to start - by graphing the solid to get an idea of what it looks like, and then adding the volume elements. Per the rules of the forum you have to make an attempt to solve the problem before we can help.
 
Since the cross section is a semi circle the area would be (pie r^2)/2. And that will go inside the integral from -3 to 3. The part where i get confused is the problem says the diameter of the cross section is in the base of the solid. How do i go figure that out? I mean by lookin at it it seems like it'll be x+x or 2x but what do i do after that?
 
i worked the problem a little further. Since the D= 2x i would get (pie (D/2)^2)/2. So it would be (pie * D^2)/8 and diameter is 2x so that would give me pie * x^2/2. Then i get (pie * X^2)/2 and since X^2 + Y^2 = 9 is the circles formula X^2 would be (9-y^2). i pulled out pie/2 outside of the integral as a constant and integrated (9-y^2) from -3 to 3. I ended up with 18pie I am not sure if this is correct though. Any help?
 
akbar786 said:
i worked the problem a little further. Since the D= 2x i would get (pie (D/2)^2)/2. So it would be (pie * D^2)/8 and diameter is 2x so that would give me pie * x^2/2. Then i get (pie * X^2)/2 and since X^2 + Y^2 = 9 is the circles formula X^2 would be (9-y^2). i pulled out pie/2 outside of the integral as a constant and integrated (9-y^2) from -3 to 3. I ended up with 18pie I am not sure if this is correct though. Any help?
The name of this Greek letter -- [itex]\pi[/itex] -- is pi, not pie.

Yes, 18 [itex]\pi[/itex] is correct. The typical volume element has a cross-sectional area of [itex](1/2) \pi x^2[/itex] and a thickness of [itex]\Delta y[/itex], so the volume of a typical volume element is [itex](1/2) \pi x^2~\Delta y = (1/2) \pi (9 - y^2) \Delta y[/itex].

The definite integral is
[tex]\int_{-3}^3 (1/2) \pi (9 - y^2)~dy[/tex]

Notice that when you get an expression for the typical volume element, you have almost the exact same thing as the integrand.
 
Thanks for correcting me i always say pie for some reason. This problem seemed pretty difficult but drawing it does make a lot of difference..Thanks for your help
 
Pie is a kind of pastry.

akbar786 said:
drawing it does make a lot of difference
. Well, yes. The first thing I do in these kinds of problems is draw a sketch of the region. It's possible to work problems like this out without a reasonable visual representation, but it's much harder to do.
 

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