Volumn of parabola and line with perpendicular cross sections being a square.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a solid whose base is defined by the parabola \(y^2=4x\) and the line \(x=2\), with square cross-sections perpendicular to the x-axis. Participants explore different approaches to set up the integral for the volume calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant clarifies that the solid is not being revolved but sliced, indicating that the cross-section is square.
  • Another participant suggests switching variables for ease and proposes that the base is bounded by \(y=\frac{x^2}{4}\) and \(y=2\), prompting a sketch of the region.
  • A participant questions how to express the side length \(s\) of the square in terms of \(x\) and \(y\), leading to the volume of an arbitrary slice being expressed as \(dV=s^2\,dy\).
  • There is a discussion about relating \(x^2\) to \(y\), with one participant noting that if \(y=\frac{x^2}{4}\), then \(16y=4x^2\).
  • Participants calculate the integral \(\int_0^2{16y} \, dy\) and arrive at a volume of 32, with some expressing surprise at the simplicity of the calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of setting up the integral and arrive at the same volume, but there are variations in the approach to expressing the relationships between variables. No consensus on the best method is explicitly stated.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about variable changes and the relationships between \(x\) and \(y\) are not fully explored, and there may be dependencies on the definitions used for the area and volume calculations.

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The base of a solid is the region bounded by the parabola
$$y^2=4x$$, and the line $$x=2$$ .

Each plane section perpendicular to the x-axis is square.
(I assume this means the cross-section of the solid will be square)
then we are not revolving but slicing.

The volume of the solid is? (the ans is 32) I looked at an example the book but didn't understand how the integral was set up.:cool:
 
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I would begin by switching variables simply because I find it easier to work the problem that way. So, the base is bounded by:

$$y=\frac{x^2}{4}$$

and

$$y=2$$

Draw you a sketch of the region. Now, we are slicing perpendicularly to the $y$-axis. So, what will the sides $s$ of the square be, first in terms of $x$, and from that, in terms of $y$?. Then, having found that, the volume of an arbitrary slice is:

$$dV=s^2\,dy$$

Can you proceed?
 
assume the change variables makes this a function in terms of $x$

and $s$ then would be just $2x$ or the area of $4x^2$

but isn't this going to $\int_a^b{A(y)}dy$
 
Yes, on both counts. You have correctly found that the side length of each square if $2x$, and so we have:

$$dV=(2x)^2\,dy=4x^2\,dy$$

Now, is there any way we can relate $x^2$ to $y$?
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, on both counts. You have correctly found that the side length of each square if $2x$, and so we have:

$$dV=(2x)^2\,dy=4x^2\,dy$$

Now, is there any way we can relate $x^2$ to $y$?

well if we can use $y=\frac{x^2}{4}$ then $16y=4x^2$

so $\displaystyle\int_0^2{16y} \text{ dy} =32$

this looks too easy..(Wondering)
 
karush said:
well if we can use $y=\frac{x^2}{4}$ then $16y=4x^2$

so $\displaystyle\int_0^2{16y} \text{ dy} =32$

this looks too easy..(Wondering)

That's all there is to it. :D

With these types of problems, the hard part is usually not the calculus, but setting up the integral. (Thinking)
 

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