Wave Function Collapse using faulty recording devices.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of measuring devices in the context of the Double Slit Experiment and the concept of Wave Function Collapse. Participants explore how the reliability of these devices, particularly when faulty or ineffective, influences the occurrence of wave function collapse and the implications of observer conditions on this phenomenon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the effectiveness required for a measuring device to cause wave function collapse, specifically in scenarios where the device has a 50% chance of turning off.
  • Another participant asserts that the collapse does not occur when the measuring device is shut off.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of a measuring device that is not 100% effective, suggesting that undetected particles could still create an interference pattern while detected particles would yield separate patterns.
  • Participants express curiosity about the emotional expressions used in the forum, indicating a light-hearted aspect to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether wave function collapse occurs when a measuring device is turned off, as one participant claims it does not while others explore the implications of detection effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of measurement and observation in quantum mechanics, as well as the potential effects of observer states on the outcomes of experiments. The effectiveness of measuring devices and the conditions under which observation occurs remain unresolved.

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Effectiveness of faulty observational devices during the Double Slit Experiment and the Wave Function Collapse.
Hey there!
I have two questions regarding the Double Slit Experiment and the Wave Function Collapse.

How effective does a measuring device have to be to cause a collapse? As in, say that every second the device has a 50% chance to turn off or on for one second, does the collapse still occur when the device has shutoff?
Similarly, suppose an observer has been awake for a few days and perhaps even on a drug trip that is rendering them in and out of consciousness, is there a threshold in which the observation does not occur?

Thank you for your time!
<3 Phillip.
 
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Lexovix said:
does the collapse still occur when the device has shutoff?
No.
 
Lexovix said:
Summary:: Effectiveness of faulty observational devices during the Double Slit Experiment and the Wave Function Collapse.

Hey there!
I have two questions regarding the Double Slit Experiment and the Wave Function Collapse.

How effective does a measuring device have to be to cause a collapse? As in, say that every second the device has a 50% chance to turn off or on for one second, does the collapse still occur when the device has shutoff?
Similarly, suppose an observer has been awake for a few days and perhaps even on a drug trip that is rendering them in and out of consciousness, is there a threshold in which the observation does not occur?

Thank you for your time!
<3 Phillip.
It's not just faulty measuring devices, a device to detect a particle may simply not be 100% effective. E.g. if only 50% of particles were detected (at one slit or the other) and 50% went undetected, then these 50% undetected particles, between them, would form a double-slit interference pattern; and, the detected particles would form two separate single-slit patterns (assuming the detection did not significantly influence this). The total pattern, therefore, would be this combination of patterns.
 
PeroK said:
It's not just faulty measuring devices, a device to detect a particle may simply not be 100% effective. E.g. if only 50% of particles were detected (at one slit or the other) and 50% went undetected, then these 50% undetected particles, between them, would form a double-slit interference pattern; and, the detected particles would form two separate single-slit patterns (assuming the detection did not significantly influence this). The total pattern, therefore, would be this combination of patterns.
Oh wow, fascinating! <3
 
Demystifier said:
No.
Interesting! Thank you for the reply! ^_^ <3
 
Lexovix said:
Interesting! Thank you for the reply! ^_^ <3
What does <3 mean? Is it some emoticon?
 
Demystifier said:
What does <3 mean? Is it some emoticon?
Often links to a default love heart emoticon. ^_^
 
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Lexovix said:
Often links to a default love heart emoticon. ^_^
Silly me, it didn't occur to me that I have to rotate by 90 degrees. :heart:
 
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