Wave mechanics: the adjoint of a hamiltonian

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gabbagabbahey said:
no, [itex]h[/itex] is an operator, [itex]e[/itex] is a scalar, they cannot possibly be equal!

[tex]e=e^2[/tex]
 
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noblegas said:
[tex]e=e^2[/tex]

No, [itex]\alpha E\varphi=E^2\varphi[/itex], so (since [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]E[/itex] are both scalars!) [itex]\alpha E=E^2[/itex]...so [itex]E=[/itex]___?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
No, [itex]\alpha E\varphi=E^2\varphi[/itex], so (since [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]E[/itex] are both scalars!) [itex]\alpha E=E^2[/itex]...so [itex]E=[/itex]___?

[itex]E=E^2/(/alpha)[/itex] alpha isn't a matrix so I can divide alpha to the other side?
 
E and alpha are numbers, yes. You want to solve alpha*E=E*E. That's the same as alpha*E-E*E=0. It's a quadratic equation. It has two solutions. Can you factor it?
 
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Dick said:
E and alpha are numbers, yes. You want to solve alpha*E=E*E. That's the same as alpha*E-E*E=0. It's a quadratic equation. It has two solutions. Can you factor it?

yes. E=0 or 1
 
noblegas said:
yes. E=0 or 1

You are getting closer. E=0 solves it. Why do you think E=1 solves E*alpha-E*E=0?
 
Dick said:
You are getting closer. E=0 solves it. Why do you think E=1 solves E*alpha-E*E=0?

E=1 ==> alpha =1 right?
 
noblegas said:
E=1 ==> alpha =1 right?

I had really hoped you would figure out that E*alpha-E*E=0 means E*(E-alpha)=0. So E=0 or E-alpha=0. So E=0 or E=alpha. But that doesn't seem to be happening. There is nothing in the problem that requires E=1 any more than there is that E=56, is there?
 
Dick said:
I had really hoped you would figure out that E*alpha-E*E=0 means E*(E-alpha)=0. So E=0 or E-alpha=0. So E=0 or E=alpha. But that doesn't seem to be happening. There is nothing in the problem that requires E=1 any more than there is that E=56, is there?

I've should have caught that ; Its been a long long ... long night.
 
noblegas said:
I've should have caught that ; Its been a long long ... long night.

Granted, a long night. So alpha is sort of the fixed constant in the problem, right? You want to solve for E given the value of alpha. Are we agreed that either E=0 or E=alpha? If so then gabbagabbahey and everybody else can take a nap.
 
Dick said:
Granted, a long night. So alpha is sort of the fixed constant in the problem, right? You want to solve for E given the value of alpha. Are we agreed that either E=0 or E=alpha? If so then gabbagabbahey and everybody else can take a nap.

yes.