Wavelength^2 vs. Tension (graph/conceptual)

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between wavelength squared and tension in a string, derived from wave mechanics. The formula v = √(T/μ) links wave speed, tension, and mass per unit length, while v = fλ connects wave speed to frequency and wavelength. By eliminating wave speed from these equations, a useful relationship emerges, showing that the slope of a wavelength squared versus tension graph is 1/(μf²). This allows for the determination of linear mass density from the slope, which can be compared to direct measurements. Understanding this relationship is essential for accurately analyzing experimental results in wave mechanics.
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hi,
in our lab last Thursday we were doing standing waves on a string attached to a pulley and vibrator(at f=120Hz), and we produced loops by creating a tension force in the string.
by calculating the wavelength(2*[distance from node to node]/#of loops), and the tension force(mass added to the end of the string*g), we are supposed to create a plot wavelength^2 vs. T, and then find the slope of the line, and use that to compare our experimental frequency vs. the known frequency.
however, I have no idea what quantity the slope of the line of a v^2/T graph represents. the units would be, uh, m/kg*s, which doesn't really help me, either. =/
any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
 
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The speed of the wave on the string is given by the formula
v= √(T/μ)
where T is the tension in the string, and μ is its mass per unit length.
The speed of a wave is also given by v=fλ
If you eliminate v between those two equations you will get a formula that relates the wavelength and the tension.
This should tell you why a graph of wavelength squared against tension could be useful.
 
Stonebridge said:
The speed of the wave on the string is given by the formula
v= √(T/μ)
where T is the tension in the string, and μ is its mass per unit length.
The speed of a wave is also given by v=fλ
If you eliminate v between those two equations you will get a formula that relates the wavelength and the tension.
This should tell you why a graph of wavelength squared against tension could be useful.

so fλ=√(T/μ), or λ^2=(T/μ)*1/f?.. does that mean the slope of the line=1/f?
sorry, I still don't really understand this... =/.
 
anti404 said:
so fλ=√(T/μ), or λ^2=(T/μ)*1/f?.. does that mean the slope of the line=1/f?
sorry, I still don't really understand this... =/.

You've made just a small mistake.

\lambda ^2 =\frac{1}{\mu f^2} T

Since you're plotting the wavelength squared against the tension, your slope is \frac{\Delta (\lambda ^2)}{\Delta T}= \frac{1}{\mu f^2}

Since you know the frequency to a certain degree of accuracy, you can find the linear mass density from the slope, and compare it with an independent measurement (Weighing the rope and measuring its length).
 
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It gives λ²=(T/μ).(1/f²) You forgot to square the f.

If you compare that with the equation of a straight line y=mx+c [m is the gradient]
then for a graph of λ² against T, the gradient is (1/μ)(1/f²)
 
so basically, m(slope)=1/μf², or f(experimental)=\sqrt{1/mu*m}
if so(and even if not), awesome, guys! thanks a lot. =]
 
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