What angle does it scatter at if the yellow ball is scattered

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In an elastic glancing collision involving a 2kg white ball and a 1kg yellow ball, the white ball initially moves at 1.74 m/s and slows to 1.37 m/s after the collision. The yellow ball, initially at rest, is scattered at an angle of 280 degrees. Momentum conservation equations were discussed, leading to the conclusion that the speed of the yellow ball after the collision is approximately 1.51 m/s. The final angle of the white ball after the collision was calculated to be around 33 degrees. The discussion emphasized the importance of using both momentum and kinetic energy conservation principles to solve the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement



The white ball (2kg) in the figure has a speed of 1.74 m/s and the yellow ball (1kg) is at rest prior to an elastic glancing collision. After the collision the white ball has a speed of 1.37 m/s. what angle does it scatter at if the yellow ball is scattered at 280 degrees?


Homework Equations



mva=mvacos(@)+mvbcos(@)

The Attempt at a Solution


2(1.37)Cos(@)a+0.58Cos280
2.74Cos@+.10
=92 degrees

I think I'm close, but not quite.
 
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anyone please, a hint?
 


drkidd22 said:
mva=mvacos(@)+mvbcos(@)
That's momentum conservation in one direction. What about the other? And what about the fact that the collision is elastic?

The Attempt at a Solution


2(1.37)Cos(@)a+0.58Cos280
2.74Cos@+.10
=92 degrees
I don't understand what you're doing here. I don't see the full equation being used. Where did you get '1.37' and '0.58'? Show all your steps.
 


1.37 is given as the speed of ball a after the collision.

0.58 is what I had found the speed of ball b to be after collision, but I think it's not correct as I'm not sure how to really do this problem. I can't really understand what the author of the book is trying to say on a similar problem.
 


drkidd22 said:
1.37 is given as the speed of ball a after the collision.
OK.
0.58 is what I had found the speed of ball b to be after collision,
How did you get this? (Hint: That's where the fact that the collision is elastic will come in handy.)
 


ok, so I think .58 was incorrect.

mava+mbvb = mava'+mbvb'

2(1.74)+0=2(1.37)+vb'
.74m/s = vb'

Right?
 


When I put this in I still don't get the right answer.

2(1.37)Cos(@)+.74Cos280
2.74Cos@+.13
=92.72 degrees
 


drkidd22 said:
ok, so I think .58 was incorrect.

mava+mbvb = mava'+mbvb'

2(1.74)+0=2(1.37)+vb'
.74m/s = vb'

Right?
No. That equation isn't valid. (Momentum is a vector--direction matters.)

Instead, make use of the fact that the collision is elastic. What does that mean?
 


KE is also conserved
 
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drkidd22 said:
KE is also conserved
Right! Use that to determine the speed of the yellow ball after the collision.
 
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3.0276 = 1.8769 + .5(v^2)
(3.0276 - 1.8769)/(.5) = v^2
Vb' = 1.51 m/s
 
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drkidd22 said:
3.0276 = 1.8769 + .5(v^2)
(3.0276 - 1.8769)/(.5) = v^2
Vb' = 1.51 m/s
Looks good. (I get 1.52, when I round off.)
 
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0 = 2(1.37)Sin@+1.52Sin280
0 = 2.74Sin@ - 1.50
= 33 degree

I think that's right.

Thanks a million. Took me while to understand it, but I got it. Thanks.
 
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