What Are Limits and Derivatives and How Do You Solve Them?

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Limits and derivatives are crucial concepts in calculus, with limits often involving indeterminate forms like 0/0. The discussion centers on solving the limit lim x->0 sin2x/sin5x, where participants suggest using L'Hôpital's Rule and manipulating the expression to find the limit. For the tangent line problem, the importance of finding the correct slope at a specific point on the curve is emphasized, rather than using arbitrary values. The conversation highlights the need for understanding the relationship between derivatives and tangent lines in solving these problems effectively. Overall, the thread illustrates common challenges faced in calculus homework and the collaborative effort to clarify these concepts.
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i have a test tomorrow but i have no idea how to do these probelms...
1) lim x->0 sin2x/sin5x

2) write an equation for the stright line through (1,0) that is tangent to the graph of y= x + 1/x...

thanks in advance
 
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Is there a reason for posting this under "differential equations"?? I'm going to move it to "Homework, k-12". I think it will get a better response there.

1) What if this were lim_{y,z->0}\frac{sin y}{y}\frac{z}{sin z}? Could you do it then? Can you think of a way to change it into that form?

2) One definition of "derivative" is that it is the "slope of the tangent line". Would knowing the slope of the line help?
 
sorry, i was in a rush so i posted it in the wrong section :biggrin:
1) i tried (2x/2x) (sin2x)/sin(5x) -> (2x/sin5x) (sin2x)(2x)..now i don't know how to get rid of the (2x/sin5x)

2) hmm...the derivative i got was (X^2-1)/x^2. do i just plug in a random number to get a slope then use point sliope formula to make it include (1,0)?
 
1) Note that you have the indeterminate form 0/0. Does this suggest anybody's Rule?

2) You don't use a random point. You have to find a point (x, y) such that the slope of the line (which is constant, of course) equals the slope of the curve at that point. Note that the line will also pass through that point. Think simultaneous equations.
 
L'Hopital's rule will work (easily) but I would consider it overkill! You wouldn't want to do this the easy way, would you?

MercuryRising: You changed \frac{sin 2x}{sin 5x} to \frac{sin 2x}{2x}\frac{5x}{sin 5x} by multiplying the numerator by 5x and denominator by 2x. Of course you can't do that! But you can multiply both numerator and denominator by the same thing. That gives \frac{sin 2x}{2x}\frac{5x}{sin 5x}\frac{2x}{5x}. Can you find the limit of that?
 
HallsofIvy said:
L'Hopital's rule will work (easily) but I would consider it overkill! You wouldn't want to do this the easy way, would you?

As a matter of fact, yes. :smile:
 
Diane_ said:
Does this suggest anybody's Rule?

Maybe L'Anybody's Rule would habe been a better hint. :smile:
 
Do you have a cold, Tom?
 
No, I do not habe a cold. :-p
 
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