What Are Some Tips for Successful Gardening?

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Gardening is a cherished activity for many participants, with roots tracing back to childhood experiences and family traditions. Organic gardening methods are favored, emphasizing the use of natural techniques over chemicals. Current gardening efforts include cultivating perennials like blueberries and raspberries, alongside plans for vegetable and herb gardens. Participants express a desire for more space to garden, reflecting on the challenges of apartment living and the joy of nurturing plants. The discussion highlights cultural differences in gardening practices, particularly contrasting American and Spanish lifestyles regarding home and garden ownership.
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Astronuc said:
We are supposed to have a frost tonight. Most of the peppers are still green. I could pick the jalapeños, but I'd like the habaneros to be orange. There are a couple of orange habs with a few green to yellow. They are nicely hot.

I think I'll cover them with clear plastic tonight.
Good luck! If you buy a roll of thin poly "painter's dropcloth" and tent the plants with that when there is some sun shining, you'll get and keep enough residual heat to prevent frost damage until you get down into the mid-20's - at least that's my experience. Windy nights are generally not the frosty nights here, but we're in a cold snap with some impressive gusts, so tenting would be nigh impossible. We gleaned a few gallons of green and orange tomatoes yesterday. Broccoli will be OK, as will the root vegetables, but the garden is on its last legs.
 
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I should have planted some kale and chard this summer. We are about 20 inches (51 cm) behind on precipitation. We had 3-4 week dry spells punctuated by heavy rain (with high winds) in short period of time (usully a few hours), so much of the water simply ran off. We've only had decent rains in the last two weeks. The maple tree lost one branch during a heavy downpour (about 2-3 inches in one hour). The force of the falling rain snapped the branch at the trunk. I've got see tree pruning to do this fall - and I've got to remove several fir trees on the on the border of our property so that they don't drop branches on the neighbors driveway or cars. I took the top off one last weekend since it was leaning toward the neighbor's cars.

We tossed some old beets into the compost pile, and darned it they didn't start growing.

We've got flowers out front, but not too many bees. It's time for them to start heading south or go into hibernation.
 
  • #2,503
Astronuc said:
We tossed some old beets into the compost pile, and darned it they didn't start growing.

We've got flowers out front, but not too many bees. It's time for them to start heading south or go into hibernation.
We didn't plant cherry tomatoes this year, but we harvested them - growing in the compost pile.

No bees left around here, to speak of. The yellow-jackets are pretty aggressive right now, though. If you are outside, don't eat anything sweet or fruity, or you'll be bothered. I took a piece of Swiss sourdough bread out to my father when he stopped to drop off apples. The bread was a bit sweet, spiced with cinnamon and nutmeg, and contained raisins. Cold as the weather was, he had yellowjackets bothering him in seconds.
 
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OmCheeto said:
Ditto. We're going to have to figure out how to make spider stew.

Last years crop: September 20th, 2009

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This years crop: October 3rd, 2010 (same number of plants)

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And what did I find in the little wicker basket before I filled it up so fully a few minutes ago?
You guessed it.
A spider and it's web.

:frown:

And don't even ask about the Thai Hots. I'm thinking they might ripen by x-mas. :cry:
:cry: That's so sad, kind of like my last couple of summers.
 
  • #2,505
turbo, astronuc,

I took a ripe (red) ghost pepper to work, and sliced it, from bottom up and sampled it. Not bad (not knowing I didn't get a bunch of seeds with it). Gave a small slice to a co-worker who was a bit hesitant about the heat. He and I ate it at the same time anyway.

Can you say hot... with emphasis, my poor friend (who I later apologized to) said it was the hottest thing he ever had, and then added, "well this weekend I hiked (or attempted to) the hardest mile in the northeast, so I guess it is only fitting that I followed it with the hottest pepper in the world." He was a good sport, but I felt bad, because I ate more of the lower part of the pepper and number of seeds was a lot less, it has a bite but nothing like what we had the upper half with a lot more seeds.

If I pick these peppers while still green, will they be as hot ? I have my hot peppers in pots so I can easily bring them indoors to keep from freezing. I will say this, when chopped up fine, they will add just enough bite to salsa to be pleasant. I am going to plant some more ornamental's, they are really cool and give some as gifts for holidays, etc... Their tiny little peppers are really hot too, but not in the ghost range.

Rhody...
 
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As far as I know, hot peppers are hot even when green. Jalapeños are certainly spicy when green. I have to get some ghost peppers.

My Czech black pepper plant is shutting down, but the jalapeños and habs are still going strong.
 
  • #2,507
When I was tilling my garden for next year, I noticed this volunteer tomato plant growing in my mulch pile. It actually looked better than the plants I planted this spring that didn't do to well.

We had one little frost and it survived, so I dug it up, potted it, brought in inside and put it in my bedroom that has lots of southern windows.

It's doing so good that I had to cage it. It blooming too.

Yea. Tomatoes this winter I hope.
 
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dlgoff said:
When I was tilling my garden for next year, I noticed this volunteer tomato plant growing in my mulch pile. It actually looked better than the plants I planted this spring that didn't do to well.

We had one little frost and it survived, so I dug it up, potted it, brought in inside and put it in my bedroom that has lots of southern windows.

It's doing so good that I had to cage it. It blooming too.

Yea. Tomatoes this winter I hope.
Ooh, put a lamp over it.
 
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dlgoff said:
When I was tilling my garden for next year, I noticed this volunteer tomato plant growing in my mulch pile. It actually looked better than the plants I planted this spring that didn't do to well.

We had one little frost and it survived, so I dug it up, potted it, brought in inside and put it in my bedroom that has lots of southern windows.

It's doing so good that I had to cage it. It blooming too.

Yea. Tomatoes this winter I hope.
No bees inside, so if you want tomatoes, you might want to get a soft sable artist's paint-brush and swab the insides of all the open blossoms from time to time. Good luck, dlg.
 
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turbo-1 said:
No bees inside, so if you want tomatoes, you might want to get a soft sable artist's paint-brush and swab the insides of all the open blossoms from time to time. Good luck, dlg.
Thanks turbo. It's time to brush now.
 
  • #2,511
The habanero peppers have some damage from a recent frost, and the fact that some ants took advantage of the soft tissue to get in and eat some of the mushy flesh.

Also the deer have gotten aggressive and broken through the mesh around the pepper plants. The deer have eaten what they could. Half of the Czech black pepper plant is gone.
 
  • #2,512
Astronuc said:
Also the deer have gotten aggressive and broken through the mesh around the pepper plants. The deer have eaten what they could. Half of the Czech black pepper plant is gone.
Deer have been my major problem with my garden for several years now. I think a 7 foot fence is in order now. Damn things.

Edit: Well maybe 9 feet would be better.
 
  • #2,513
Astronuc said:
The habanero peppers have some damage from a recent frost, and the fact that some ants took advantage of the soft tissue to get in and eat some of the mushy flesh.

Also the deer have gotten aggressive and broken through the mesh around the pepper plants. The deer have eaten what they could. Half of the Czech black pepper plant is gone.
That's too bad! The first year we were here one of my sisters-in-law gave me a large habanero plant that she had potted and over-wintered. I planted it in the garden, and the next morning it was eaten down to a stump - deer tracks all around it. I thought I was in for an uphill fight, but I bought a couple of noisy plastic sprinklers triggered by adjustable motion-detectors, and have not had any more damage from deer. Vigilance and willingness to cull pests have helped save the garden from groundhogs and others. One of my neighbors fought the groundhogs by burying welded-wire fencing around the garden. He failed to understand that groundhogs are excellent climbers. If the fence is short (his was) and they can't dig under it, they will simply climb over it.
 
  • #2,514
turbo-1 said:
No bees inside, so if you want tomatoes, you might want to get a soft sable artist's paint-brush and swab the insides of all the open blossoms from time to time. Good luck, dlg.
Most tomatoes are self-pollinating, a gentle shake of the plant is usually sufficient for pollination, if grown indoors.

If you want to get more aggressive and hand polinate, here is a cool tip.

http://greenculturesg.com/articles/mar06/march06_feature_2.htm
 
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Evo said:
Most tomatoes are self-pollinating, a gentle shake of the plant is usually sufficient for pollination, if grown indoors.

If you want to get more aggressive and hand polinate, here is a cool tip.

http://greenculturesg.com/articles/mar06/march06_feature_2.htm
I wouldn't rely on a gentle shake to pollinate most tomato varieties. Many of the heirloom varieties won't bear well without cross-pollination, and even hybrids that don't absolutely require cross-variety pollination still need outside help. There is a huge greenhouse a few miles from here (Backyard Farms) that grows and sells quite a few types of tomatoes, and they rely on bumblebees to do all the pollinating. Those are some BIG bees, too, though docile enough for people to work around them comfortably.
 
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turbo-1 said:
I wouldn't rely on a gentle shake to pollinate most tomato varieties. Many of the heirloom varieties won't bear well without cross-pollination, and even hybrids that don't absolutely require cross-variety pollination still need outside help. There is a huge greenhouse a few miles from here (Backyard Farms) that grows and sells quite a few types of tomatoes, and they rely on bumblebees to do all the pollinating. Those are some BIG bees, too, though docile enough for people to work around them comfortably.
Bumblebees are preferred, apparently due to sonification.

I don't have bees, none, zip. That is why I can't grow cucumbers, squash, etc... that require manual pollination. I read that in order to fertilize a cucumber, the blossom needs repeated hits. That's why attempting to hand pollinate them is usually not successful. But tomatoes, peppers, eggplants can be pollinated by simply shaking the pollen loose, outdoors this would be from wind. They are the only things I can grow successfully due to the lack of insects.
 
  • #2,517
If you want to grow squash and cukes, you need buzz-pollinators (bumblebees are best) to dislodge the large pollen grains from the blossoms and transport them from flower to flower. The best way to encourage health bumblebee populations is to provide nice nesting-sites for them. Get some cheap terra-cotta plant pots and drill a bumblebee-sized hole in the side of each using a carbide bit. Put a handful of loose cotton batting in each pot for nesting material. Bumblebees like using old mouse nests, and they are often lined with soft stuff like feathers, thistledown, etc. Get some flat rocks and some heavier rocks. Invert each pot/nest on a flat rock, and put a heavy rock on the pot to weight it down. This helps protect your bumblebees from insectivores like skunks. That's it. Pretty simple bee-houses. If you have lots of flowers and/or fruit trees around to keep the bees happy, they will gladly take care of your squash and cukes.
 
  • #2,518
This Indian Summer we're having here is producing a bumper crop of peppers. This would have been a great year for cubanelles and poblanos. Last year they set tons of fruit right before the first freeze. :frown:

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The hawks have been terrible the last month. This was one of two hawks attacking the birds and squirrels out back. These are small hawks, they are not the NotAGoshawk.

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The baby squirrels, born this summer, stay in a large nest when they are not looking for food. A damn hawk was sitting on top of their nest the other day, I scared it off. Shortly after it left, there was a flurry of nest fortification, they added a roof and created a side entrance near the bottom of the nest. Smart squirrels. :approve:
 
  • #2,519
Looks like you have a Krider's red-tail hawk there.
 
  • #2,520
turbo-1 said:
Looks like you have a Krider's red-tail hawk there.
That's a good guess. Aaargh, where did I put my Birds of Kansas Book?
 
  • #2,521
Evo said:
That's a good guess. Aaargh, where did I put my Birds of Kansas Book?
You moved, and it is now hopelessly lost until you pass from this mortal coil, and your daughters have to clean out your apartment. :biggrin:
 
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turbo-1 said:
You moved, and it is now hopelessly lost until you pass from this mortal coil, and your daughters have to clean out your apartment. :biggrin:
:cry:
 
  • #2,523
Evo said:
:cry:
And they'll throw the book out because neither of them cares about identifying the Birds of Kansas. Sorry, some things skip a generation.
 
  • #2,524
Evo said:
This Indian Summer we're having here is producing a bumper crop of peppers. This would have been a great year for cubanelles and poblanos. Last year they set tons of fruit right before the first freeze. :frown:
What does "Indian Summer" mean? Google translate gives me something that literally translated back means "second youth". :confused:
 
  • #2,525
Upisoft said:
What does "Indian Summer" mean? Google translate gives me something that literally translated back means "second youth". :confused:
Indian Summer is a gardener's delight. It is a spell of unseasonably warm weather in the fall of the year that can get you more ripe tomatoes, chilies, and other food.
 
  • #2,526
I'd appreciate it if anyone can help me with this, are those pomegranate leaves?

[PLAIN]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4425/img0081qc.jpg

I've googled pomegranate leaves and the below appeared [resized the first], the first are thiner, but they do look the same, don't they?

[PLAIN]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5755/pomegranateflowers.jpg

[URL]http://www.irandriedfruit.com/images/fruit/pomegranate-leaves.jpg[/URL]
 
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  • #2,527
The last image reminds me of the smooth leaves on peach trees. I have never seen pomegranate leaves, but the leaves in your top pic seem to have smaller leaflets at the base. That is the kind of morphological clue that might help you identify the plant.

If you need help with spruces, firs, pines, and boreal hardwoods, I'd be more help.
 
  • #2,528
drizzle said:
I'd appreciate it if anyone can help me with this, are those pomegranate leaves?

[PLAIN]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4425/img0081qc.jpg

I've googled pomegranate leaves and the below appeared [resized the first], the first are thiner, but they do look the same, don't they?

[PLAIN]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5755/pomegranateflowers.jpg

[PLAIN]http://www.irandriedfruit.com/images/fruit/pomegranate-leaves.jpg[/QUOTE]
The first picture is definitely not pomegranate. The pomegranate is a woody shrub. are those flowers in the lower left hand corner part of the plant? It looks like some type of herb.
 
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Evo said:
The first picture is definitely not pomegranate. The pomegranate is a woody shrub.

But you can't tell yet, the plant in the first pic is onlt 7 months old.
 
  • #2,531
OK, I Googled "pomegranate leaves" and got WAY more hits that looked like waxy, leathery, smooth leaves in image #3 than either of the one or two images. Kind of makes sense, because fruiting shrubs in arid climates should be optimized to reduce moisture losses due to heat and solar radiation.
 
  • #2,532
I am going to plant garlic in the vegetable garden very soon.
Are some varieties better than others?
Do you know of some good ones to try?
(we are in US planting zone 6)
 
  • #2,533
Ouabache said:
I am going to plant garlic in the vegetable garden very soon.
Are some varieties better than others? Do you have some recommendations?
(we are in US planting zone 6)
I am partial to Russian Red and German White hard-neck garlics. They are very tough and they yield well. I'm in zone 4, so the garlic needs to be cold-hardy.
 
  • #2,534
turbo-1 said:
I am partial to Russian Red and German White hard-neck garlics..
That's great I will see if we can get some of those.

I'd also like to plant some cold tolerant raspberries. We only get 1 good season out of 5 due to poor cold tolerance. I've heard of the Boyne variety, but don't know anyone who has tried it.
 
  • #2,535
Evo said:
The hawks have been terrible the last month. This was one of two hawks attacking the birds and squirrels out back. These are small hawks, they are not the NotAGoshawk.

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Beautiful bird.
 
  • #2,536
Ouabache said:
I'd also like to plant some cold tolerant raspberries. We only get 1 good season out of 5 due to poor cold tolerance. I've heard of the Boyne variety, but don't know anyone who has tried it.

Are you kidding me? I'm in zone 3, and they grow wild here. I had very few bad years when I had a raspberry patch.
 
  • #2,537
NeoDevin said:
Are you kidding me? I'm in zone 3, and they grow wild here. I had very few bad years when I had a raspberry patch.
Our raspberries are growing wild more or less. I started with 2 or 3 plants, and now I have a patch, and they keep trying to spread across the yard. My blackberries are also propagating.

We are zone 5 and get some pretty hard freezes. We can get Zone 4 weather about once per decade.
 
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Astronuc said:
Beautiful bird.
Yes, but he's eating all of the birds and squirrels. :frown:
 
  • #2,539
NeoDevin said:
Are you kidding me? I'm in zone 3, and they grow wild here. I had very few bad years when I had a raspberry patch.
Our patch was at low elevation below several hills and in an open field. So not only did we get the cold air settling in the valley but also the desiccating winds across the field. In the last 5 years very few canes survive through to spring. The roots are fine, they grow new canes through the warm months, but we lose the early season harvest.

I have not tried Boyne yet, but read that it grows in colder zones than 5. So besides the native Rubus occidentalis, do we know of some other tried an tested cold tolerant varieties?
Astronuc said:
Our raspberries are growing wild more or less. I started with 2 or 3 plants, and now I have a patch, and they keep trying to spread across the yard. My blackberries are also propagating.

We are zone 5 and get some pretty hard freezes. We can get Zone 4 weather about once per decade.
What variety are you growing?
Are they in an open field? do they have a wind break?
 
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Ouabache said:
What variety are you growing?
Are they in an open field? do they have a wind break?
I'm not sure of the variety. It's been a while, and I started with 2 plants, then added one more of a different variety.

They are growing in the middle of my back yard, where they are more or less protected from the wind, although in winder when there are not leaves on the trees, it gets windy there. The back yard is also at the base of a hill of about 30 feet in height, and which is covered in trees and shrubs, and they are partly protected by the house.
 
  • #2,541
Ouabache said:
do we know of some other tried an tested cold tolerant varieties?

Unfortunately, I don't know the varieties. They were growing there when we moved to the house, and are probably still there today.

I just planted a raspberry patch at my house this year, but it consists of plants taken from friend's and family's yards, so I don't know the varieties of those either. I got some from my sister's house, which were there when she moved in, some from my in laws, which grew into their yard from their neighbor's yard, and some from a friend who planted hers so long ago that she doesn't have a clue on the variety.

My best suggestion would be to do that: find someone (or a few someones) in your area with a successful patch in similar growing conditions, and ask if you could dig up a few canes to plant in your yard. Raspberries spread like crazy, so there should be no shortage of extra canes if someone already has a patch.
 
  • #2,542
You've had about the same experience that I did, Neo. A woman that my wife works with wanted to cut a path though her patch, and she brought in a 5-gallon bucket of canes. My wife called me, and I drove down to get them and put them in the ground right away. Many of the canes were very woody and brown, and were not viable or productive, but there were enough smaller green canes and rhizomes to start a good patch. Here's a picture. I planted that bucket of canes and roots 4 years ago. Next spring, I'm going to dig up a bunch of canes and give them to a neighbor who wants to start a berry-patch for his grand-daughters to tend and harvest. Every time I mow the lawn, I mow down dozens of small canes several feet from the main patch. Raspberries are aggressive. Almost as aggressive as bee-balm and mint. Again, I have no idea what variety these plants are - only that they cam from an old and very productive patch on a local property.

raspberrypatch.jpg
 
  • #2,543
Evo said:
Yes, but he's eating all of the birds and squirrels. :frown:
Look on the bright side. He is also eating mice, voles, and rats so you don't have to deal with them.

When I rented a house overlooking the Penobscot river (in college) there was a Merlin nesting in the eaves of the porch. She was smaller than your red-tail variant, but she brought back mice and other small rodents, snakes and frogs all day long to feed the little ones. It's part of nature. Sometimes man upsets nature to the detriment of some species and to the advantage of others. I'm sure that the red-tails love plains farm country. Grains mean large populations of mice, rats, and other rodents, and that means plenty of food for the red-tails.
 
  • #2,544
I picked some end of the season peppers - habaneros and jalapeños.

And a friend of my wife sent some hot peppers - like a hot Caribbean or similar.
 

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  • #2,545
dlgoff said:
When I was tilling my garden for next year, I noticed this volunteer tomato plant growing in my mulch pile. It actually looked better than the plants I planted this spring that didn't do to well.

We had one little frost and it survived, so I dug it up, potted it, brought in inside and put it in my bedroom that has lots of southern windows.

It's doing so good that I had to cage it. It blooming too.

Yea. Tomatoes this winter I hope.
This plant is really healthy and has grown very large with lots of blooms. I've pollinated them (with a brush as turbo suggest) but I'm afraid they need to be cross-pollinated from another type.

No tomatoes for Don. :cry:

Now what am I going to do with the plant? I feel like it's a pet now but I can't take it to a shelter. :confused:
 
  • #2,546
dlgoff said:
This plant is really healthy and has grown very large with lots of blooms. I've pollinated them (with a brush as turbo suggest) but I'm afraid they need to be cross-pollinated from another type.

No tomatoes for Don. :cry:

Now what am I going to do with the plant? I feel like it's a pet now but I can't take it to a shelter. :confused:
Did you leave some blooms alone and shake the plant? I tried the brush on some tomatoes, and the blooms fell off, the ones I left alone pollinated. Using a fan to mimick air movement works also.

I've been growing tomatoes for over 45 years, some of my relatives own farms, but don't listen to me. I used to be called "the plant lady" People said that I didn't just have green thumbs, I had green arms. I won competitions. But, that's ok, ignore my advice.

That tomatoes pollinate themselves poorly without outside aid is clearly shown in greenhouse situations where pollination must be aided by artificial wind, vibration of the plants (one brand of vibrator is a wand called an "electric bee" that is used manually), or more often today, by cultured bumblebees[citation needed]. The anther of a tomato flower is shaped like a hollow tube, with the pollen produced within the structure, rather than on the surface as in most species. The pollen moves through pores in the anther, but very little pollen is shed without some kind of outside motion. The best source of outside motion is a sonicating bee such as a bumblebee or the original wild halictid pollinator. In an outside setting, wind or animals provide sufficient motion to produce commercially viable crops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Pollination

I had posted how to make a tomato vibrator last time. Here's an even easier method with an electric toothbrush. http://www.gardenguides.com/85268-pollinate-tomatoes-electric-toothbrush.html
 
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  • #2,547
Evo said:
Did you leave some blooms alone and shake the plant? I tried the brush on some tomatoes, and the blooms fell off, the ones I left alone pollinated. Using a fan to mimick air movement works also.

I've been growing tomatoes for over 45 years, some of my relatives own farms, but don't listen to me. I used to be called "the plant lady" People said that I didn't just have green thumbs, I had green arms. I won competitions. But, that's ok, ignore my advice.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Pollination

I had posted how to make a tomato vibrator last time. Here's an even easier method with an electric toothbrush. http://www.gardenguides.com/85268-pollinate-tomatoes-electric-toothbrush.html
There are many blooms left so I'll give it some more time and just shake like you suggest. But I don't think it's going to work since the first blooms the plant had are still there. The peddles have been dried for a couple of weeks now and the green part of the bloom (where the tomato fruit should start) has grown like they're full grown tomatoes. Normally when a bloom doesn't take it drops off like you say, but not these. As a mater of fact, no blooms have dropped off. I've never seen a full grown tomato top without a fruit. That's why I think it needs pollen from another variety.
 
  • #2,548
Evo said:
But, that's ok, ignore my advice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Pollination
Well they do say:

In the wild, original state, tomatoes required cross-pollination;...

And I think this is what happen...The seed grew a wild/regressed plant.

But I did buy a plant light as you suggested. I've used it on those cloudy days.
 
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dlgoff said:
And I think this is what happen...The seed grew a wild/regressed plant.
A seed that won't breed true from a hybrid (not uncommon) may well require cross-species pollination, not just plant-to-plant pollination. If you can keep the plant thriving through the winter, it will be a great addition to next year's garden. If you can keep it producing, it will be a great asset all winter.

Edit: My wife and I have grown organic versions of hybrids for a while. This year, we decided to plant half Moskviches (old indeterimate variety) and half Marianas (cold-tolerant sauce tomatoes). We'll do the same next year! We have gallons and gallons of herb-rich mariana sauces in the freezer.
 
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turbo-1 said:
If you can keep the plant thriving through the winter, it will be a great addition to next year's garden. If you can keep it producing, it will be a great asset all winter.
This thing is going to reach the ceiling with in a month. And it drinks a quart or more of water a day now.
 

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