What Are the Partials of a 16 ft Open Organ Pipe?

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The discussion centers on calculating the fundamental frequency and first overtone of a 16 ft open organ pipe. The fundamental frequency is determined using the equation V=fλ, leading to a frequency of approximately 42.9 Hz. There is confusion regarding the wavelength, with a suggestion that the fundamental wavelength is inaccurately stated as 8 meters. Participants discuss the concepts of nodes and antinodes in relation to open pipes, indicating a need for clarity on how these affect the calculation of partials. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of understanding sound waves in open organ pipes.
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Homework Statement


What are the fundamental and first overtone (second partial) of an open (at both ends)
organ pipe 16 ft long?

Homework Equations


V=fλ


The Attempt at a Solution


V=fλ
343=f8
42.9 hz= f

I'm just not sure how to find partials :/ All help is appreciated
 
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Mozzalicious said:
V=fλ
343=f8
If I'm interpreting that equation correctly, you're saying the fundamental wavelength in a 16ft doubly open pipe is 8m. That's a bit inaccurate. How do you arrive at that?
For the first overtone, how many wavelengths in the pipe?
 
haruspex said:
If I'm interpreting that equation correctly, you're saying the fundamental wavelength in a 16ft doubly open pipe is 8m. That's a bit inaccurate. How do you arrive at that?
For the first overtone, how many wavelengths in the pipe?

Well, I wouldn't say arrived so much as blundered into it lol. I don't really understand the question or partials so from everything I was able to find on partials I guessed 8. From the information the other things I could think of would be 16 or 2. I could provide the links to this information. I was kind of just throwing darts with something I didn't understand
 
Mozzalicious said:
Well, I wouldn't say arrived so much as blundered into it lol. I don't really understand the question or partials so from everything I was able to find on partials I guessed 8. From the information the other things I could think of would be 16 or 2. I could provide the links to this information. I was kind of just throwing darts with something I didn't understand

Maybe I should have emphasised parts of my question: 16 feet... 8 metres.
Do you know about nodes and antinodes? Do you get a node or antinode at the open end of a pipe? Can you draw a diagram?
 
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