What are the pin reactions at A and D?

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The discussion focuses on determining the pin reactions at points A and D for a system of two couples acting at the midpoints of bars AB and BD. Participants emphasize using equilibrium equations, including the sum of moments and forces along the x and y axes, to solve for the unknown reactions. One user suggests breaking down the components of reactions and drawing free body diagrams for clarity. There is a consensus that correctly applying the sign convention is crucial for accurate calculations. Ultimately, the group arrives at a solution, confirming the reactions at A and D are both 4.22 kN.
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Homework Statement


The two couples act at the midpoints of bars AB and BD. Determine the magnitudes of the pin reactions at A and D. Neglect the Weights of the members. [See Attachments for Figure]

Homework Equations


Sum Moment Along A & D = 0
Sum of Forces along X-axis
Sum forces along y-axis

The Attempt at a Solution


so i tried getting the answer at the back which is A = D = 4.22kN.
i tried moment at A
20 -20 + Rd = 0
Rd = 0?
After that i can't find a way to answer the question. Can someone guide me through it.
 

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I would break the components of the reactions down so you have the following number of unknowns:

Rd_x and Rd_y
Ra_x and Ra_y

I would then take a free body diagram of member AB or BD to get another equation for the reactions. Then take if from there with the other equations you already listed.
 
Do you mean that I should separate each members and draw a Free-body diagram of each and do the equilibrium equations?

So i tried getting Bx and By.. by summing moments along member AB and member BD. I got Bx = 0 and By = 20/3. Can't seem to proceed from here.
 
Yes, that's what I meant.

You must have done something wrong since you should have gotten Bx = Dx and By=Dy. Summing moments for member BD then would give you one relationship between Dx and Dy.
 
I tried this one
At member AB
Sum Moment along Pin A [Clockwise Positive] = 20 - 4Bx - 3By = 0
and should i moment at Member BD?
Also, what's next at my solution. Is it correct?
 
hey Thanks i got it now. here's my solution
 

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A couple of suggestions so that other people can understand better what you are trying to communicate:

- put a ∑ sign in front of Ma and Mb so that it is clear that you are summing up the moments about point A and B respectively; otherwise someone may be thinking you are stating the moment reactions at A and B.

- make a statement that you are explicitly looking at member BD by itself e.g. "For member BD:" or better still draw a free body diagram right at this point.

- I think your sign convention might have been mixed up but you were consistent (or just lucky) so that it still gave the right answer at the end. I would state explicitly what sign convention you are using somewhere
e.g. "\rightarrow -ve \uparrow +ve"
which is what I think you used in your solution.
 
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